[Vision2020] Tell Us, Mr. Borden . . .

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 7 18:30:38 PST 2011

Jay, you are making stuff up.
Where are the police surrounded? Why were they surrounded? Why would they allow themselves to be surrounded? And surrounded by what? Textbooks, hippies, girls and flowers? 
Donovan Arnold

 From: Jay Borden <jborden at datawedge.com>
To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>; Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Tell Us, Mr. Borden . . .

So… are you now saying there is “more to the story?”  
Your video is a smaller sub-set of the one that I posted chronicling the events prior.
Your video starts after the crowd of protestors has already followed and surrounded the police.   (I believe the opener on your video is where the students are shouting “fuck the police” while they have them surrounded… which is about 2/3’s of the way (give or take) in the video link that I posted.
From:Tom Hansen [mailto:thansen at moscow.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 3:33 PM
To: Moscow Vision 2020
Cc: Jay Borden
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Tell Us, Mr. Borden . . .
Here's one (15 minutes) you missed, Mr. Borden.  I am sure that you simply overlooked it, right?

"When Occupy Davis protesters began to be arrested, students banded together, chanting the police to release the captives and for more students to come support. Later on, the protesters sat down in linked arms, entrapping the police along with the captive. After trying to negotiate, rather than stepping over the students, the police pepper sprayed the students point blank in the face. Many sources reports that there are around 10 protesters, that is not true. The police only chose to spray these front individuals sitting near the roads. There were countless more peaceful protesters surrounding them on all sides! So there were not only 10! This video was shot right before, during, and after the pepper spraying and forceful removal of the protesters. I stood in disbelief as I watched the violence. Skip to 4:05 to where the police talks to the student one more time before bringing out the canister of pepper spray."


We should be happy the protestors were not carrying guns, a common activity at Tea Party gatherings, huh?
Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"
- Unknown

On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com> wrote:
Jay Borden stated . . .
>"I, however, am simply presenting the viewpoint that (right or wrong on
>the part of the officers), there is MORE TO THE STORY than just that
>initial 30-second viral video."
>And just what is the "MORE TO THE STORY" that justifies pepper spraying students . . . sitting cross-legged on the ground . . . covering their faces?
>Seeya round town, Moscow.
>Tom Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
>"If not us, who?
>If not now, when?"
>- Unknown
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