[Vision2020] Cain Quits

Gary Crabtree jampot at roadrunner.com
Tue Dec 6 06:30:18 PST 2011


As an obstetrician, Paul is certainly in a position to have a reasoned opinion on the topic of abortion. Beyond that, it is my understanding that much of his opposition to R v. W stems from it's not passing constitutional muster. There is clearly nothing in the Constitution that provides for a federal intrusion into the matter and it should be returned to the individual states for adjudication.

g


From: Sue Hovey 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:35 PM
To: Paul Rumelhart ; lfalen ; Darrell Keim ; Moscow Cares 
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Cain Quits


Paul,

I think if you followed him a bit you’d find his private life is probably not the primary reason he’s out of this race. After all, Newt’s still there.  Personally, I think Cain is an arrogant ass.  He talks about God’s plan in his life—maybe it’s to live as an Old Testament David (with the sex drive and not the intellect)  because his ignorance about international issues certainly points out his lack in that regard.   Take a look at his responses to inquiries about countries in Asia and Libya as a US concern, for example.  And if you vote for Ron Paul the Gods aren’t going to help you. If I were a Republican I’d be looking at Huntsman.  I don’t think he’d disgrace us as President and he seems to be the only R candidate who isn’t totally over-awed by Tea Party rhetoric.  Even Ron Paul given his abhorrence of  government intrusion into personal lives, is out there shouting to the masses that overturning Roe v Wade would be a really good idea.   

Sue H.  

From: Paul Rumelhart 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:00 PM
To: Sue Hovey ; lfalen ; Darrell Keim ; Moscow Cares 
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Cain Quits

I don't follow Cain, and I suspect that if I did I'd find a lot of issues upon which we disagree.  I just hate to see someone ousted from the race based solely on how he handles his private life.


Gods help me, if things keep going as they are, I might be voting for Ron Paul next November.



Paul



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From: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
To: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>; Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>; Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com> 
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Cain Quits

I do think Darrell's point has a lot of merit.  My concern with Herman Cain, other than his complete lack of any valid credentials that might serve this nation well in these troubled times, both nationally and internationally, is his arrogance.  If he doesn't know it, it isn't important.  If he says she was only a "friend" in spite of claims to the contrary, the media are wrong to inquire further.  And bottom line, I can't imagine a marriage in which the husband, who--over a 14 year period, squires another woman around in public and has ongoing communication with her, has never even mentioned her to his wife as a friend, co-worker, whatever.  He says his communication with her was to help her financially, with personal and family problems, etc.  Supposedly it was like taking her on as a grown up "foster child." While spouses don't necessarily talk a lot about business, it's experience such as helping others that they do generally share. He says his wife didn't know--maybe she did and maybe she didn't.  Spouses put up with infidelity for any number of reasons; she probably had hers.  Despite his claims, this hasn't been a media lynching.  Lynchings were shameful historical events. His troubles arise from his own personal sense of entitlement.

Sue H

-----Original Message----- From: lfalen
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 10:32 AM
To: Darrell Keim ; Moscow Cares
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Cain Quits

If he is guilty as now seems probable, he should be out. What I do not understand is why he is out and Newt is taking he lead.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Darrell Keim keim153 at gmail.com
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 14:31:36 -0800
To: Moscow Cares moscowcares at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Cain Quits

> If he couldn't keep an oath to his wife, why should we think he can keep
> the presidential oath?
> 
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com> wrote:
> 
> > HONESTY . . . INTEGRITY . . . LOYALTY.
> >
> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > "If not us, who?
> > If not now, when?"
> >
> > - Unknown
> >
> > On Dec 3, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Why do people look to the President as a model of family values, anyway?
> > The President doesn't affect much in that regard, since the President
> > doesn't author legislation.  He's a public servant doing a specific job. > I
> > no more care if he is unfaithful to his significant other than I care if > my
> > local librarian is.  Which is not much, since it's not my business.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On 12/03/2011 11:10 AM, Nicholas Gier wrote:
> >
> > Herman Cain announced on Saturday that he is suspending his campaign for
> > the Republican presidential nomination.
> >
> > The news comes in the wake of Cain being accused of having an > extramarital
> > affair and sexual harassment charges from more than a decade ago
> > resurfacing. The former CEO of Godfather's Pizza has vehemently denied > any
> > wrongdoing amid the controversy.
> >
> > On Saturday, Cain called the allegations "false" and said that they have
> > had a "tremendous" and "painful price" on his family. His wife, Gloria
> > Cain, stood behind him on stage as he spoke in their home stage of > Georgia.
> >
> > Looking to the future, Cain told his supporters that he is now turning > to
> > "Plan B," a new effort and website (TheCainSolutions.com) working "to be
> > a voice for the people."
> >
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