[Vision2020] Say What?

Fri Dec 2 10:11:41 PST 2011

There is nothing wrong with part time work for kids. I worked in my uncles fruit orchard in high school. Before I went to high school, Dad has us earn money by patching feed sacks and trapping squirrels. We also helped with ranch work ( haying gathering cattle, branding, fixing fence, etc). This is the best way to raise kids. The problem is that in the inter cities there are less options.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: "Gier, Nicholas" NGIER at uidaho.edu
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:23:16 -0800
To: "Janesta" janesta at gmail.com,  "Jay Borden" jborden at datawedge.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?

> Greetings Visionaries:
> 
> Thanks, Janesta.  Your story brought back teenage memories.
> 
> I picked pears in the orchards of the Rogue River Valley for two summers in the late 1950s.  My workmates were Mexicans on the Bracero Program.  I was the only illegal on the job.  I was big for my age but I was only 14.  One day I picked 150 boxes and I remember the temperature was 115 degrees.  At 15 cents per box that was a very good day's work.
> 
> I learned a good work ethic from depression era parents, who were some of the first composters and recyclers in Medford, Oregon.
> 
> Every job well done has dignity,
> 
> Nick
> 
> A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in. 
> 
> -Greek proverb
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com on behalf of Janesta
> Sent: Thu 12/1/2011 10:06 PM
> To: Jay Borden
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020; Penni Cyr
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
>  
> In 1968, my dad was administrator of Crestview Terrace Nursing Home. He
> gave me a job in the laundry, mangling cotton sheets for a whole 25 cents
> an hour! It was wicked, hot work, but at least I had a radio. I worked
> about 4 hours a day. To this day, my favorite Stephen King story, is The
> Mangler. *laugh*
> 
> The next year, he purchased Paradise Villa Nursing Home, now Aspen Park...
> The summer of 1969, I had the thrill of washing windows, inside and out.
> What I remember the most about washing those windows, was as soon as they
> were done, it would rain. Just a touch of rain, and a puff of dust, to muck
> up my hard work... and it was start all over again!
> The next year, I graduated to housekeeper. Boy, did the promotion puff my
> head! My second week, my prideful bubble was burst, when after bragging to
> Dad how I'd cleaned 10 rooms before noon. He said "Daughter, everyone of
> these people is some body's grandma, grandpa, sister, brother. This is
> their home now. You are not to rush in and out of rooms, but visit with
> each person, as if they were your grandma, or grandpa." It was then I
> realized how horrible it must be to live in a small room for the rest of
> one's life... I made so many friends, and to this day, am enthralled when
> elders recite their history.
> 
> By 9th grade, I was promoted to laundry assistant, working under Bernice
> Foster. The laundry was a humbling experience. Half my paycheck went into
> the bank, the other half was spent at Myklebusts on clothing. For the
> fruits of my labor, I was voted "Best Dressed" at MJHS.
> 
> All of my siblings worked in the nursing home. So our employees could be
> with their family, we worked holidays, and weekends... we worked wherever
> we were needed when a department was short of help.
> 
> Dad taught us a work ethic, passed from the four of us, to his 13
> grandchildren, and four great-granddaughters.
> 
> Yep, dad broke labor laws, and I am glad he did. None of us would be who we
> are today, had it not been for lessons learned in the halls of Paradise
> Villa.
> 
> Janesta Carcich
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Jay Borden <jborden at datawedge.com> wrote:
> 
> > Indeed.****
> >
> > ** **
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> > I grew up in Nebraska. where every kid knows the process of "detassling
> > corn".****
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> > When I was 13, I spent the summer shucking and detassling corn . as did a
> > whole host of other kids.  ****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > The next summer, I knew I didn't want to do that again. so I asked the
> > local farmers if they wanted their barns re-painted.  For the next two
> > summers, I painted barns for uber-cheap over the summer. making more than I
> > would have detassling corn, but keeping the price low enough so that the
> > farmers couldn't refuse the good deal. and made enough money by the next
> > summer to purchase my first car and pay for all of my insurance (which was
> > the condition my parents set forth for owning the car).****
> >
> > ** **
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> > If I can do that, I'm sure some other kids can handle working in the
> > library or mopping a floor.****
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> > Jay****
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> > *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:
> > vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Hansen
> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2011 8:54 PM
> > *To:* Gary Crabtree
> > *Cc:* Moscow Vision 2020; Penni Cyr
> > *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Say What?****
> >
> > ** **
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> > To hell with child labor laws, right?****
> >
> > Seeya round town, Moscow.****
> >
> > ** **
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> > Tom Hansen****
> >
> > Moscow, Idaho****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > "If not us, who?****
> >
> > If not now, when?"****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > - Unknown****
> >
> >
> > On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:51 PM, "Gary Crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > ****
> >
> > Sounds as though the man is putting forward the radical conservative
> > concept of "the part time, after school job." What a heartless bastard.***
> > *
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > g****
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> > ** **
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> > *From:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> ****
> >
> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2011 6:07 PM****
> >
> > *To:* Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> ****
> >
> > *Cc:* Penni Cyr <cpenni at gmail.com> ****
> >
> > *Subject:* [Vision2020] Say What?****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > "A very poor neighborhood. You have kids that who are under law required
> > to go to school. They have no money. They have no habit of work. What if
> > you paid them part-time in the afternoon to sit in the clerical office, and
> > greet people when they came in? What if you paid them to work as an
> > assistant librarian?  ****
> >
> >
> >
> > ****
> >
> > Let me get down to the janitor thing, and these letters are written that
> > janitorial work is really hard and really dangerous and this and that.
> >  Fine.  So what if they became assistant janitors and their job was to mop
> > the floor and clean the bathroom. And you pay them."****
> >
> >
> >
> > ****
> >
> > - Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich (December 1, 2011)
> >
> > ****
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> > ****
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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gsc9ElmJEs****
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> > ** **
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> > -----------------------------****
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> > ** **
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> > Seeya round town, Moscow.****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Tom Hansen****
> >
> > Moscow, Idaho****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > "If not us, who?****
> >
> > If not now, when?"****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > - Unknown****
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