[Vision2020] No Guts, Misquotes, & Mark Driscoll

Tue Aug 23 11:28:37 PDT 2011

Agree with what people say or not, Paul, when an individual knowingly, willfully and rather forcefully makes himself a controversial public figure, you should expect "fair comment" from some in that person's community.  Comes with the territory.....I wonder if this guy ever "sees" somewhat less salacious, and rather 
more mundane and pedestrian sins.  Like standing behind a couple at the 
supermarket check out counter, and suddenly confronting the husband 
with, "You had a supersized order of fries with your double cheeseburger
 today.  You removed the top bun to add mustard and relish, because you 
wanted to see what was under the bun.  And you had a chocolate milk 
shake, also.  And a cookie. I know this, I see things, I just saw this 
in a vision."  Thus prompting the wife to gape aghast at her husband.  
"Henry, you promised you'd stick to your diet!", and a painful, stunned 
admission is made by Henry, followed by days of marital strife.....This 
"vision thing" from above would carry heavy responsibilities.

Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:47:33 -0700
From: godshatter at yahoo.com
To: deco at moscow.com; Vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] No Guts, Misquotes, & Mark Driscoll

Odd.
Traditionally, it's the liberal community's job to defend all things sexual in nature from the ire of offended puritanical right-wing fundamentalists.
I must have crossed over into Opposite Land last night when I went to sleep.  How do you get back?  Find the portal and travel away from it?  Don't look for it at all and fall into it by mistake?
I hope I figure it out soon.  On the plus side, Facebook is a lot more private here and Microsoft is working hard to get Windows on 10% of user's desktops.

Paul

From: Art Deco <deco at moscow.com>
To: Moscow Vision 2020 <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:14 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] No Guts, Misquotes, & Mark Driscoll

With all the buzz about the Christ Church Cult's 
scheduling of sexually obsessed so-called pastor Mark Driscoll who receives 
pornographic visions from Jesus, a couple of interest comments have passed 
almost unnoticed.

Vera White commented briefly about the latest 
Wilson-steps-on-his-dick-again snafu in last week's Ink. 
 [See complete Ink comment 
below].

One paragraph is of special 
interest:

The INKster tried for two days to reach Wilson for comment, but 
was told he was busy with back-to-back meetings. She did however talk to 
Assistant Pastor Mike Lawyer Friday who explained the conference might attract 
"people from all over the world" and the agenda would include a Minister's 
Conference for men titled "The Puritan Five," and for females a session called 
"Dangerous Women."

First, Wilson, whose invitation to Driscoll and 
inept, illogical defense of that invitation has been widely criticized and 
lampooned in the Reformed Community of which Wilson is the alleged 
leader(at least for now), hasn't got the courage to discuss it very far 
outside his own cloistered circle.  

Second, a friend who is not on V2020 but 
reads the Ink asked me if it was possible that Mike Lawyer possibly 
misspoke or was misquoted in the above paragraph.  She wonders instead of 
"people from all over the world", 
what was really should have 
appeared was "perverts from all over the world."

w.
____________________________

Vera White, The Ink, Moscow-Pullman Daily 
News

....

The INKster had never 
heard of Pastor Mark Driscoll of Mars Hill Church in Seattle until the outraged 
postings started appearing on Vision2020 this week. What stirred up such solid 
citizens as Saundra Lund of Moscow is
Nazarene Church 
Pastor Ed Eby's willingness to rent his Church for an appearance by 
Driscoll.
"I cannot imagine 
that the community will be overly impressed that the Nazarene Church has rented 
itself out for a 'sexinar,' " Lund concluded.
In Eby's defense, he 
rented out his church to Doug Wilson and Christ Church elders, sponsors of 
Driscoll's appearance next month at a conference titled "The Grace Agenda: All 
of Christ for All of Life for All The World."
Driscoll has a blog 
on which in 2008 he answered such questions as: Can I perform anal sex on my 
wife? Can we use sex toys? My wife likes to masturbate me upon occasion and 
wants to know how to get better at it. What should she 
do?
The INKster tried for 
two days to reach Wilson for comment, but was told he was busy with back-to-back 
meetings. She did however talk to Assistant Pastor Mike Lawyer Friday who 
explained the conference might attract "people from all over the world" and the 
agenda would include a Minister's Conference for men titled "The Puritan Five," 
and for females a session called "Dangerous Women."
How well does Lawyer 
know Driscoll?
"I've read some of 
his recent stuff," Lawyer said. "We feel his stuff is appropriate and like him 
as far as we know. We respect him and his ministry."
The INKster tried to 
reach Eby but ended up talking to temporary church secretary Mary Jane 
Bauer.
"Pastor Eby doesn¹t 
want to talk about Driscoll right now as he says he is still researching the 
matter," said Bauer, who has been a member of the church for 30 years. "I've 
never heard of Driscoll, but we rent out the church to many different 
groups.²
After the INKster 
explained a bit about Driscoll's style, Bauer said she "highly doubts she will 
be attending."
...the blotter 
rests.

_______________________
Wayne A. Fox
wayne.a.fox at gmail.com

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