[Vision2020] Aug. 10, 2011 Moscow-Pullman Daily News: Schweitzer said lowering theminimumwage is a good idea
Tom Hansen
thansen at moscow.com
Thu Aug 11 08:29:29 PDT 2011
I say deregulate EVERYTHING! Right, g?
Shut down the Food and Drug Administration!
Do we really need to have our food inspected?
And one other thing . . .
If you really do want to reduce/eliminate the number of criminals, it's really quite simple.
As I suggested a long time ago, if you eliminate laws, there are no crimes. No crimes, no criminals!
You GO, g-ster!
Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
"The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change and the Realist adjusts his sails."
- Unknown
On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:18, Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com> wrote:
> You realize that the _entire_ market for the products which Dr.
> Schweitzer sells is the result of federal regulation, right? His
> products are designed to meet FERC reliability standards for
> electrical transmission.
>
> -- ACS
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Gary Crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>> You are right, of course. The last thing our country needs is congressmen
>> who know how to meet a delivery date and a payroll. I am sure we would do
>> best to stick with brainless drones such as Murray who at no point in theirs
>> life have created anything of value. America will surely be elevated from
>> its current economic woes by fools who believe that wealth and job
>> creation is the exclusive domain of those in Washington. How silly of me to
>> think that a gentleman who has the ability to conceive, create, and bring to
>> market a useful product with no help from our simpering nanny state might be
>> able to bring that same increasingly novel approach to governance.
>>
>> g
>> From: Art Deco
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:43 PM
>> To: Moscow Vision 2020
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Aug. 10,2011 Moscow-Pullman Daily News: Schweitzer
>> said lowering theminimumwage is a good idea
>> There is little doubt that Schweitzer to this point has been a very
>> successful entrepreneur. And in doing so he has treated his employees
>> well. So far he has evaded a lot of serious competition because of the the
>> singular nature of his business and his adroit management.
>>
>> It is not accurate to say that he does not "whine." The DN article contain
>> whines about regulation, for example.
>>
>> I'd be the last to defend all regulations. Some are stupid, ill-designed,
>> and counterproductive. But there are generally good reasons for
>> well-designed regulations in may areas. What these areas are and how they
>> are to be regulated depends on knowledge and values, the latter an area
>> where consensus is often hard to forge.
>>
>> A mistake commonly made in some businesses is to promote the best worker
>> into a supervisory position. Often this does not work. The skills needed
>> to be an expert machinist, for example, are very different from the skills
>> needed to be an able supervisor.
>>
>> While Schweitzer is an excellent entrepreneur, that set of skills is
>> different from being an able legislator. Government is much more
>> complex than most medium sized companies, and it deals within frameworks of
>> complex organizations, though sometimes corrupt, idiotic, and ineffective,
>> never-the-less take a great deal of understanding to even know where to
>> start to make change, and know how to make change against a tide of years of
>> habit and resistance.
>>
>> Being the king of the company whose word is law is different from being a
>> cog in a legislative/political machine where one's ideas and words carry
>> much less weight.
>>
>> Further, being an effective business person sometimes narrows perspective
>> and makes understanding different aspects of issues and values difficult.
>>
>> Schweitzer may make an able legislator. I don't know. But his success as a
>> business person is no guarantee that he will. But perhaps if he set his
>> sights on the state legislature first so he can learn and can show what he
>> can do, then Washington voters would have a better feel for his
>> political/legislative ability.
>>
>> w.
>> From: Gary Crabtree
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:55 PM
>> To: Ted Moffett ; Moscow Vision 2020
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Aug. 10,2011 Moscow-Pullman Daily News: Schweitzer
>> said lowering theminimum wage is a good idea
>> I'd love to see Mr. Schweitzer take a run at Patty (the menace) Murray's
>> senate seat in 2016. Washington has a desperate need for a few clear
>> thinking individuals who know how the real world actually works. Someone who
>> has created innovative products and jobs without having to whine to the
>> government for a handout. Accomplishments of which Murray couldn't even
>> conceive.
>>
>> g
>>
>> P.S. "meters of sea level rise?" When, by 4012/4042? Nothing like a little
>> sensationalism to try and rile the monkeys
>> From: Ted Moffett
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:39 PM
>> To: Moscow Vision 2020
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Aug. 10, 2011 Moscow-Pullman Daily News: Schweitzer
>> said lowering the minimum wage is a good idea
>>
>> Of course Schweitzer provides jobs and an economic boost to the Palouse, and
>> gives back to the community, as evidenced by the United Way support:
>> http://www.moscowlatahuw.org/docs/annual%20report%202010final.pdf
>>
>> But lowering the minimum wage is a good idea? Since the great recession
>> an expanding percentage of the US work force is defined as working poor
>> ( http://www.workingpoorfamilies.org/pdfs/policybrief-winter2011.pdf ), and
>> would lowering the minimum wage make this situation worse? Maybe he was
>> misquoted.
>>
>> Also, Schweitzer comments that "you can't fool the laws of physics even for
>> an instant" regarding fuel economy for vehicles. Yet, in his critical
>> comments on the costs of the EPA regulation of CO2 emissions, does he imply
>> we should ignore the laws of physics regarding the radiative forcing of
>> human sourced atmospheric CO2 emissions raising Earth's temperature into the
>> range of "dangerous anthropogenic interference," to quote from a Proceedings
>> of of the National Academy of Sciences article I recommend everyone
>> read: http://www.pnas.org/content/106/49/20616.full August 31, 2009:
>> "Reducing abrupt climate change risk using the Montreal Protocol and other
>> regulatory actions to complement cuts in CO2 emissions" A short quote from
>> the article: The potential consequences associated with these tipping points
>> may be largely irreversible and unmanageable (10) and include widespread
>> loss of biodiversity, meters of sea level rise, and famine, which could lead
>> to political instability (9, 11). In a worst-case scenario, climate change
>> could produce runaway feedbacks, such as methane release from permafrost
>> (12).
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Schweitzer: Too much regulation can cause harm
>>
>> http://seekingalpha.com/news-article/1623287-schweitzer-too-much-regulation-can-cause-harm
>>
>> Wed August 10, 2011 10:02 AM
>>
>>
>> Aug. 10--If lawmakers back off unnecessary regulations, the economy could
>> take an upward turn, Ed Schweitzer said Tuesday at a Pullman Chamber of
>> Commerce luncheon.
>>
>> However, he not only offered criticism of government rules, but also
>> exhortations to fellow businessmen to believe in America and invest in it,
>> as he is doing with major expansion of Pullman-based Schweitzer Engineering
>> Laboratories.
>>
>> "Duke Energy (DUK) reported that the carbon dioxide limits that the
>> Environmental Protection Agency put into regulation is going to cost them $2
>> billion to $5 billion dollars," Schweitzer said. "Just for one utility of
>> the United States providing people electricity. Who's going to pay that?
>> Well, who here plugs something in?"
>>
>> Schweitzer, founder and president of SEL, said regulations for some
>> gas-efficient cars can also make a negative impact.
>>
>> "It sounds good to make cars that use less gas, but you can't fool the laws
>> of physics even for an instant, and you can only fool the laws of economics
>> for a short time," he said. "As you know we're pushing a ... 56-mile a
>> gallon limit. ... There's estimates that that will kill 200,000 jobs and
>> leave us with cars we don't want."
>>
>> An important step in fixing the economy, Schweitzer said, is inventing new
>> things, taking them to market and competing to serve customers. In addition,
>> he said, there should be an elimination of all the government activities
>> that "just plain don't work."
>>
>> "Invent your future," he said. "Make it, do it, sell it, improve it ... and
>> once people stop looking at the capitol dome as the top of an ATM machine,
>> then we're going to get back on track."
>>
>> Schweitzer said lowering the minimum wage is a good idea, as well as
>> encouraging construction of pending building permits at Pullman City Hall.
>>
>> SEL itself is moving forward with both construction and production, he said.
>> New SEL facilities have been and are being constructed in efforts to expand
>> services. A facility in Lewiston will be up and running by Oct. 1 and a
>> 90,000 square foot Solution Delivery Center being built in Pullman will be
>> finished by mid-November. In addition, a 68,500 square foot SEL facility
>> recently was constructed in San Luis Potosi, Mexico, for exporting equipment
>> to countries all over the world.
>>
>> "A few months ago we decided we were really going to step on the gas. And
>> why?" he asked. "We decided we're going to do it because we think the
>> country's going to get it right. We really believe in America."
>>
>> So far, Schweitzer said, the San Luis Potosi facility has distributed to
>> about 30 countries, and over time Pullman has distributed to more than 140
>> countries around the world.
>>
>> "SEL and other people are finding now is a good time to build, and this is
>> something we can do right here at home," he said. "We need the space, so
>> we're building, and right now construction costs are low. We're doing it at
>> about 25 to 30 percent lower than last time we built something ... and it's
>> a good time to hire people -- folks want to work."
>>
>> SEL employs about 2,500 people worldwide, the majority of them on the
>> Palouse.
>>
>> Kelli Hadley can be reached at (208) 882-5561, ext. 234, or by email to
>> khadley at dnews.com.
>>
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