[Vision2020] CNN Breaking News

Sat Aug 6 16:06:58 PDT 2011

The short answer is that we had total and complete legislative control
from late 2009 (when Al Franken took his seat) to early 2010 (when Ted
Kennedy died). The long answer is, of course, that you have a short
memory.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20016227-503544.html

Mitch McConnell held unemployment extension and aid to states hostage
unless we signed off on a two-year extension on tax cuts for the rich.
We paid the ransom that time, just like we did this time.

-- ACS

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Gary Crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> "Of course, anyone listening to reputable news and not selectively quoting
> is aware of this little gem, which is also in the article Gary selectively
> quoted from:
>
> “The majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that
> would raise revenues,” the firm said.”
>
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>
> BHO and the dems had the opportunity to raise revenues with out even lifting
> a finger and there was nothing that Republicans could have done to stop it.
> In fact, your progressive pals had to go out of their way to avoid letting
> GW's tax cuts expire. I'm dying to hear how the greedy Tea Party vermin
> pulled that one off. The democrats also had two full years of total
> executive and legislative control. During that time they did what exactly to
> address the countries deficit problem? ( I can sure list several ways in
> which they made it worse) Can you point to the language in the dems budget
> that would have resulted in reduced spending and explain how the Tea Party
> might be responsible for the glaring omission?
>
>
>
> As a side note I'm also curious as to what makes your selective quote in
> some way superior to mine? Last time I checked, all quotes are selective.
>
>
>
> g
>
> From: Saundra Lund
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 10:00 AM
> To: 'Tom Hansen' ; 'Donovan Arnold'
> Cc: 'Moscow Vision 2020'
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] CNN Breaking News
>
> Selective quoting yet again, eh, Gary?
>
>
>
> For those interested, here’s the link to the article Gary is quoting:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/WP-S-P-Downgrades
>
>
>
> Of course, anyone listening to reputable news and not selectively quoting is
> aware of this little gem, which is also in the article Gary selectively
> quoted from:
>
> “The majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that
> would raise revenues,” the firm said.”
>
>
>
> So, yes, let’s be sure to be honest about the teabaggers’ role in this
> fiasco:  they are apparently too economics challenged to understand that the
> US simply cannot appropriately deal with our debt without increasing revenue
> as well as addressing  spending.  That ignorance plays a significant –
> perhaps the most significant -- role in this disaster.
>
>
>
> And, the current GOP leadership obviously lacks the backbone to stand up to
> these lunatics who are willing to absolutely destroy this country’s economy
> in the name of their flawed ideology.
>
>
>
> Perhaps a great example is the FAA deauthorization – they were so stupid
> they thought they were saving taxpayers money (as well as attacking the hard
> working American men & women who make up airlines) by preventing the FAA
> from collecting taxes.  But, what really happened?  The same damn thing that
> happens nearly every time we give big corporations a “break”:  the airlines
> ran with their corporate greed & simply jacked up ticket prices.
>
>
>
> As near as I can tell, the ‘baggers either think greed is a virtue or are as
> stupid as their hero Greenspan was about the pervasiveness of greed & the
> loss of humanity, compassion, and caring for others in America.
>
>
>
> They must be so proud.
>
>
>
> Which speaks volumes about what’s gone wrong with this country – greed &
> ignorance trump all.
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>
> Saundra Lund
>
> Moscow, ID
>
>
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
>
> ~ Edmund Burke
>
>
>
> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2011 through life plus
> 70 years, Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside
> the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the
> author.*****
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> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:19 AM
> To: Tom Hansen; Donovan Arnold
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] CNN Breaking News
>
>
>
> From today's Washington Post
>
>
>
> "...the bipartisan agreement reached this week to find at least
> $2.1 trillion in budget savings “fell short” of what was necessary to tame
> the nation’s debt over time and predicted that leaders would not be likely
> to achieve more savings in the future."
>
>
>
> Was it the Tea Party that was fighting tooth nail in favor of raising the
> debt limit to an absolute all time high with no spending reductions what so
> ever? Was it the Tea party that would have no part of the cut, cap, and
> balance plan or the Mack penny plan that would have put the country on a
> path to solvency? Can you point to a single democrat/progressive plan that
> might have had as a result even a slight reduction in the countries debt
> burden? Heck, with two years of total government control they couldn't even
> pass a budget.
>
>
>
> The bond rating agencies want to see spending and the debt required to
> perpetuate it brought under control, a goal that is at the very heart of the
> "Tea Party stench."
>
>
>
> g
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>
>
> From: Tom Hansen
>
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:13 PM
>
> To: Donovan Arnold
>
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] CNN Breaking News
>
>
>
> This downgrading, if adopted by the other two rating firms, has more of an
> adverse impact than you suggest, Mr. Arnold.
>
>
>
> Do you realize that most, if not all, 301Ks are committed to investments
> with AAA ratings ONLY?
>
>
>
> The result could be catastrophic
>
>
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
>
>
> Tom Hansen
>
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
> change and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>
>
>
> - Unknown
>
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2011, at 18:57, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> The good thing about a democracy is you get what you voted for. And the bad
> thing about democracy is you get what you voted for. Unfortunately, it is
> going to take much more than a downgrade of AAA to AA+ from S&P to make the
> American people respond to this economic crisis. I heard on NPR today that
> only 58% of the adult US population is employed. Scary!
>
>
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
>
>
> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 7:17 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] CNN Breaking News
>
> Read on, V-Peeps.
>
> More "good" news to pass on to the Tea Party stench, the cause behind this
> downgrade.
>
> http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/05/news/economy/downgrade_rumors/index.htm
>
> The downfall of the market this week may foreshadow things to come.
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "Believe we're gliding down the highway
> When in fact we're slip slidin' away."
>
> - Paul Simon
>
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: CNN Breaking News
> From:    "CNN Breaking News" <BreakingNews at mail.cnn.com>
> Date:    Fri, August 5, 2011 5:31 pm
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> Rating agency Standard & Poor's says it has downgraded the U.S. credit
> rating to AA+ from its top rank of AAA.
>
> Rating agencies analyze risk and give debt a "grade" that reflects the
> borrower's ability to pay the underlying loans.
>
> The safest bets are stamped AAA. That's where U.S. debt stood for years.
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