[Vision2020] Fw: This could be big

Sue Hovey suehovey at moscow.com
Sat Apr 23 16:26:11 PDT 2011


Thanks for the defense, Joe.  I should never respond to Gary.  Certainly he’s more articulate than I when it comes to snide..

Sue 

From: Joe Campbell 
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:23 AM
To: the lockshop 
Cc: Sue Hovey ; Vision 2020 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: This could be big

What is the "big government" that you're talking about below, Gary? Tell me where the waste is and be specific. You can't and won't and that shows where the greater myth lies.

For God's sake, we've been waging a war in two now three different countries, putting the whole thing on our world "credit card." But you don't raise a peep about that. Education, health care, entitlements -- that is where the evil lies (according to you)! 

This is crap rhetoric and you know it. And the fact that you can't make a sensible response to this post, that all you'll do is throw insults and more crap rhetoric proves it even more.

And this isn't an insult. It is a CRITICISM. Maybe you are as unable to tell the difference as Roger.


On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 5:14 PM, the lockshop <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com> wrote:

  I feel fine, thank you for your concern. There is no ire to mitigate on my end and no need for rationalization required on yours. Corporations take advantage of tax laws put in place by Republican and Democrat lawmakers to return value to the shareholders as is their primary reason for existance. The fact that you and your family have been able to take advantage of this warms my heart. 

  The notion that corporations large or small should "pay a fair share" is a farce generated by big government (and it's friends and beneficiaries) to extract additional revenue from individuals. The burden falls on shareholders in the form of reduced return on investment and/or on customers in the form of higher price for products. Placing ever-increasing drains on a corporations revenue can only result in disaster. If return to investors is too low or the price of goods is to high the end result is the same. You have killed the goose and the attendant jobs, goods, and services (and yes, tax monies) that it generated.


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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Sue Hovey 
    To: the lockshop ; 'Vision 2020' 
    Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:13 PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: This could be big

    True,  and we probably won’t be able to do them much longer, so perhaps that will help to mitigate your ire.  A few years ago I was behind one of the efforts to get PERSI to disinvest—a move that went nowhere, fast.  So I continue to take the dirty money and I’m going to be spending it on critical needs for our disabled adult daughter.  Feel better now?

    Sue  H  

    From: the lockshop 
    Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:56 AM
    To: Sue Hovey ; 'Vision 2020' 
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: This could be big

    Interestingly enough, Exxon Mobile, Conoco Philips, General Electric and Goldman Sachs are among the ten largest holdings of several of the funds held by PERSI. These "dirty corporate freeloaders" are playing a large part in funding local retiree's trips to Hawaii! This must be brought to a halt immediately.

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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Sue Hovey 
      To: 'Vision 2020' 
      Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:58 PM
      Subject: [Vision2020] Fw: This could be big

      Sort of a down and dirty (for sure dirty) list of Corporate Freeloaders.  Thought it might be of interest to some of you.

      Sue 

      From: William Frye 
      Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:48 AM
      To: undisclosed recipients:
      Subject: Fw: This could be big




              A few weeks ago, Senator Bernie Sanders released a list of the 10 companies worst at paying their fair share in taxes. We liked it, and our designer Gabe quickly put it into chart form and put it up on our website.


              What happened next was exciting: Tens of thousands of people started sharing the chart on Facebook. Blogs started posting links to it. It began to really blow up—and that gave us an idea: What if we could get this popular chart in front of millions of people today as they're finishing their taxes? 

              So here we go: We're going to try to saturate Facebook with the chart below, so that everyone sees the shameful behavior of these 10 companies. Can you join in? All you have to do is click this button to share it: 

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