[Vision2020] Religious Concerns about a Candidate?

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Sun Oct 17 09:46:47 PDT 2010


Fair comment
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 21:39:29 -0700
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Religious Concerns about a Candidate?

> 
> My take on the subject of religious beliefs and political candidacy:
> 
> 1.  I don't care what a particular candidate believes, or what their 
> favorite preacher/pastor/guru/familiar believes or even espouses 
> publicly.  Whether it's fairies, transubstantiation, reincarnation, or 
> that all geeks should burn in hell, I truly don't care and don't think 
> we should be debating them.
> 
> however
> 
> 2.  I *do* care whether or not a candidate has tried to push their 
> beliefs on others by using their political position, and I *do* care 
> whether or not they have tried to limit the rights of others to believe 
> whatever insane crap they wish to believe in.  Those topics, in my 
> opinion, are free game.
> 
> Paul
> 
> lfalen wrote:
> > I of course do not believe any of what he said. I have no idea whether what he said  was part of the original tenets of the LDS. but I am fairly certain that most mormons do not feel that way today.  I do not judge people by their religion. I do not care if they are catholic, protestant ,LDS, hindu buddhist, moslem, or athist. I will judge them on how they behave and comport themselves in public. I abhor religion being dragged into the political arena. The recent postcard is a example. Who ever perpetuated this should be charged with what ever the law allows. I do not think that it came from any of the candidates of either party and I would like to see a public statement to that effect.
> > Roger
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Reggie Holmquist reggieholmquist at u.boisestate.edu
> > Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:14:34 -0700
> > To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Religious Concerns about a Candidate?
> >
> >   
> >> It's right here <http://freezechurch.org/page48.html>.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:04 PM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>> I found the stuff on homosexuals. He appeared to be quoting from the bible,
> >>> but I am not a biblical scholar. What I should not find was any reference to
> >>> the LDS.
> >>> Roger
> >>> -----Original message-----
> >>> From: "Tom Hansen" thansen at moscow.com
> >>> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:47:45 -0700
> >>> To: "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Religious Concerns about a  Candidate?
> >>>
> >>>       
> >>>> Roger, Roger, Roger -
> >>>>
> >>>> Saundra's claim . . .
> >>>>
> >>>> "Bouma attends a church that preaches, 'To support homosexual marriage is
> >>>> to call God a liar.  Any church that proclaims different is a church of
> >>>> Satan.  Any person who condones homosexual marriage is anti-God and
> >>>> anti-Christ.'
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.freezechurch.org/page42.html"
> >>>>
> >>>> is well substantiated by her citation word for word.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here, I'll walk you through this, ok?
> >>>>
> >>>> 1)  Open the URL cited by Saundra in your web browser
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.freezechurch.org/page42.html
> >>>>
> >>>> 2)  Right-click anywhere within the website.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3)  Select "View Source"
> >>>>
> >>>> This will reveall all the text and geeky code stuff in the website.
> >>>>
> >>>> 4)  Scroll down to line #132, WHERE IT SAYS
> >>>>
> >>>> "To support homosexual marriage is to call God a liar."
> >>>>
> >>>> The remainder of Saundra's refernced quote follows in subsequent lines
> >>>> (i.e. 133, 134, 135, . . . )
> >>>>
> >>>> Nobody is attempting to deprive Pastor Knorr of his first amendment
> >>>> rights, Roger.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pastor Knorr is free to spew all the rectal fluids his narrow-minded,
> >>>> racist conscience is capable of espousing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Many of us simply don't agree with him and don't really care to have a
> >>>> lmming within his flock holding an elected office of Idaho's 6th
> >>>> Congressional District.  Those are our freedoms, Roger.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom Hansen
> >>>> Moscow, Idaho
> >>>>
> >>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
> >>>>         
> >>> change
> >>>       
> >>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> >>>>
> >>>> - Unknown
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>
> >> -- 
> >> There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what
> >> the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be
> >> replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another
> >> theory which states that this has already happened.
> >>
> >> Douglas Adams
> >>
> >>
> >>     
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