[Vision2020] rosy future for rabid liberal at loose ends?

[Garrett Clevenger]

ok, sorry for the case of mistaken identity...

Garrett


----- Original Message -----
From: "the lockshop" <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com>
To: "Garrett Clevenger" <garrettmc at frontier.com>, "Gary Crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
Cc: "vision2020_moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2010 11:28:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] rosy future for rabid liberal at loose ends?


I believe that you are suffering from a case of mistaken identity. At the time KRFP was coming on line there were two people at the lock shop. I think that you are likely thinking of the other guy. I'm fairly sure that I've never been face to face with you. Every time I've made keys for the station its been for Leigh or Dave who both seem to be decent enough fellas. I really haven't much of an opinion about the station one way or the other. I've listened a few times and don't find it to be my cup of tea. I prefer KWSU for my left of center news and views since I'm forced to provide partial funding for it. I know you'll continue to believe what you want but, I'm telling ya, as long as the station remains a privately financed entity it's entirely A-OK by me. 

g 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garrett Clevenger" < garrettmc at frontier.com > 
To: "Gary Crabtree" < jampot at roadrunner.com > 
Cc: "vision2020_moscow.com" < vision2020 at moscow.com > 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] rosy future for rabid liberal at loose ends? 

> Gary may not remember, but he talked trash about KRFP before the station went on the air to people I knew who went in to get keys made by him. I don't know the specifics about what was said, but they left feeling you did not approve of the station. I can only assume they weren't the only people you told this to. 
> 
> I was a founding member of KRFP and was in charge of making keys, which is how this came up because I said I'd go to the Lock Shop to get keys made. It was a controversial decision because we knew Gary's position about the station. 
> 
> But I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I was willing to still give him business. I wasn't going to prejudge who this mysterious Gary Crabtree was even it was believed Gary was prejudging the station and probably talking bad about it. 
> 
> Perhaps contempt isn't the right word, but the point is, Gary, you accuse liberals of doing the same thing you are doing, which is hypocritical. 
> 
> To quote you, "I firmly believe that stating facts in a discussion is a more productive thing than using the "you're too stupid to understand" gambit. You're welcome to stick with what ever works for you." 
> 
> gclev 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Crabtree" < jampot at roadrunner.com > 
> To: "Garrett Clevenger" < garrettmc at frontier.com >, "vision2020_moscow.com" < vision2020 at moscow.com > 
> Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2010 3:59:39 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] rosy future for rabid liberal at loose ends? 
> 
> 
> I don't recall ever mentioning KRFP before the last week of last month. I suppose it's possible but fairly unlikely. Either way, contempt was not what I expressed. What I said was that they had a bias and were purveyors of progressive propaganda. When the stations mission statement plainly states that it's dedicated to "progressive values" and "social change" it's not an expression of contempt it's a statement of fact. I firmly believe that stating facts in a discussion is a more productive thing than using the "you're too stupid to understand" gambit. You're welcome to stick with what ever works for you. 
> 
> g 
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------- 
> From: "Garrett Clevenger" < garrettmc at frontier.com > 
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 8:48 AM 
> To: "vision2020_moscow.com" < vision2020 at moscow.com > 
> Subject: [Vision2020] rosy future for rabid liberal at loose ends? 
> 
>> g writes: 
>> 
>> "The elitist (why does that ring a bell?) notion that they just must be right because they imagine that those with whom they disagree are ever so much less intelligent and unreasonable then themselves. Is it any wonder that common ground is so difficult to reach when the opening salvo from the left is so utterly dismissive and contemptuous?" 
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>> 
>> And Gary's contempt for KRFP before it even went on the air is not hypocritical how? 
>> 
>> It seems to me Gary ought to take his own words into consideration. Heck, he may even like some things broadcast about Obama if actually listened instead of assuming he knows more than he does... 
>> 
>> gclev 
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