[Vision2020] rosey future for rabid liberal at loose ends?

[lfalen]

Of those "News Outlets" you list in your first sentence, I read Newsweek and fined it to extremely biased.
Roger
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From: keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 23:30:26 -0700
To: jampot at roadrunner.com,  vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] rosey future for rabid liberal at loose ends?

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> Truthfully, I'd have to say that it's the "established" media, print and broadcast, who bring the most bias-free coverage, specifically NBC (my preferred network source), ABC, and CBS; and Time and Newsweek.  Now, I love Mother Jones and The Progressive, but I wouldn't presume to try to persuade you that they're editorially even-handed.  And they don't need to be, just as Fox and MSNBC don't need to be perfectly unbiased -- they offer analysis and commentary from differing perspectives, which is not only obvious but also by design.  Nonetheless, I read them, just as I read (courtesy of Roger) The National Review and the Wall Street Journal.  It's good to get all sides of an argument, but it's also important to discern what's news and what's discussion.  They both have their place, but they're not at all the same thing.  
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> Sadly, it seems that fewer and fewer Americans understand that.  And I think that of the two, MSNBC and Fox, it's Fox that more portrays itself as a "news" organization, and it isn't; putting it another way, I think Fox viewers are far more likely to feel suspicious of the networks as well as to believe -- sincerely but mistakenly -- that what they get from Fox is news, as opposed to commentary.  Further,  I find Fox' analysis and perspective to be much less intelligent, accurate, and reasonable than that of even the most strident MSNBC pundits.  I prefer MSNBC's Rachel Maddow to Keith Olbermann, and Olbermann to virtually anyone ever featured on Fox, but not even I would suggest that MSNBC is without bias.  I just think it's much less without fear-mongering and jingoist bigotry than Fox, and that's important to me.
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> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] rosey future for rabid liberal at loose ends?
> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 19:47:10 -0700
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> And I would suggest that you are in 
> error. While I don't for a second believe that what is broadcast on programs 
> such as The Factor, Glenn Beck's show, or Hannity qualifies as news, I don't 
> believe that the brass at FOX would try and have you buy it either. On the other 
> hand segments such as News Watch, Fox News Weekend, America's Newsroom, and Fox 
> Report with Shepard Smith are as objective as anything on broadcast television. 
> I also believe that On the Record with Greta Van Sustren (no conservative, her) 
> and Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace does a good job of delivering objective 
> information with balanced analysis. Dismissing FOX because you disagree with a 
> few of their talking heads is as silly as a conservative rejecting everything 
> reported in the NYT because of its demonstrated editorial slant. If there is a 
> news source that brings absolutely no baggage to its reporting I'd love to hear 
> about it.
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> From: keely emerinemix 
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 6:47 PM
> To: jampot at roadrunner.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] rosey future for rabid liberal at loose 
> ends?
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> Hey, if Olbermann knowingly violated his employers' policies, he 
> got what he ought to have gotten.  No scandal there.
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> question of  Fox News being "fair and balanced" obscures the real point, 
> which is whether or not Fox News is really "news."  I don't think we need 
> to have the lexicography battle that we've been having over "to bear," but no 
> one who's ever produced, studied, or benefited from real journalism -- real news 
> gathering and news reporting -- would seriously suggest that Fox is "news" in 
> any way, shape, or form.  
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> Fox News is nothing more than "Open Mic 
> Night" in a room full of culturally insecure, frightened and naive Christian 
> conservatives trying to earn the respect of the swaggering rich, important guys 
> across the bar.  The rich guys drink better beer and drive more expensive 
> cars, but the Religious Right has some really attractive sisters they bring to 
> the ball, and that makes everyone in the room fast friends -- to the enrichment 
> of the guys operating the microphone.
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> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 
> 2010 12:01:46 -0700
> Subject: [Vision2020] rosey future for rabid liberal at 
> loose ends?
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> Anybody care to speculate on how 
> long it takes for unceremoniously sacked  MSNBC hack, Keith 
> Olbermann to swallow what little pride he may have left and accept 
> a position along side Alan Colmes, Mara Liasson, Juan Williams, Bob 
> Beckel, Kirsten Powers, Susan Estrich, Tammy Bruce, Pat Caddell, etc. over 
> at what appears to be the only fair and balance news source, FOX? The idea 
> of watching him on Sean Hannity's show makes me laugh just thinking about 
> it.
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> g
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