[Vision2020] discharging firearms

[Art Deco]

Gary writes:

"If you would like to impress me as knowing what you are talking about, give some indication of wide spread illegal hunting activity using full auto weaponry. Newspaper articles, Fish and Game case numbers, county sheriffs dept. reports, etc. Without, I'm inclined to think that your assertions are without merit."

1.    Why don't we ask your suggested sources how many people violate speeding laws, fail to stop at stop signs, or use marijuana?  How accurate do you think their guesses would be based on the number of citations they issue?  

In the last 20 years I have hiked on Moscow Mountain alone over 40,000 miles in all seasons.  I have never once seen a game warden on any of these hikes. In the ,last few months I reported a poached moose on a paved sideroad about 1/4 mile from our house.  It took F&G about 2 weeks to respond.  Useless.  Since then at least 2 more moose have been poached on the mountain with 3 or 4 miles of our house.  F&G?  Clueless!  And how could F&G tell if an individual hunter hasn't modified his semi-automatic weapon to make it fully automatic?  It appears to be a simple thing to do, especially since kits to do so are in widely available.

And the current LCSD?  They can't even handle loose, marauding dog complaints in our neighborhood, losing paperwork and failing to serve signed citations.

As to automatic weapons, I've posted before.  They are heard at intervals in many parts of Latah and Benewah County, more often between September 1st and December 31st.

When it comes to what goes on in the woods, I have much more confidence in the words the hunters, loggers, hikers, bicyclists, and my own senses than any of your revered, mostly absent sources.

2.    But you may be on to something.  Maybe there needs to be a refugee camp set up, if a large enough tract of land could be found, to handle all the people who are devastated and their lives ruined by their failure of your not finding merit their assertions.

Maybe you should get out more in general to talk and to attentively listen to people that do not necessarily agree with your opinions.  Maybe you should get out in the woods more.  In that respect, here's a helpful hint to aid your discovery processes for the next few weeks if you go into the woods: wear medium brown pants and a brown leather jacket and slink about in the brush.  

w.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary Crabtree 
  To: Art Deco ; Vision 2020 
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] discharging firearms


  1. Hunting with semi auto firearms is, in almost all cases, legal and a matter of individual taste and applicability to the hunting situation.

  2. As I've said before, hunting with full auto arms is illegal everywhere. I support this law as does the NRA.

  It wouldn't surprise me if there were certain individuals were in favor of using soda straws and spit wads.  What's your point?

  All laws are sometimes violated in Idaho, even in Latah County, to a greater or lesser extent, Again, what's your point?

  If you would like to impress me as knowing what you are talking about, give some indication of wide spread illegal hunting activity using full auto weaponry. Newspaper articles, Fish and Game case numbers, county sheriffs dept. reports, etc. Without, I'm inclined to think that your assertions are without merit.

  g


  From: Art Deco 
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:20 PM
  To: Vision 2020 
  Subject: [Vision2020] discharging firearms- was Pres mans-up,Crabtree doesn't


  Gary,

  Why don't you tell us what and NRA's and your (if they differ) position is on hunting with:

  1.    Semi-automatic weapons?

  2.    Automatic weapons?


  Also, are you not aware that some hunters are for legalizing hunting with automatic weapons?  Are you not aware it is not rare in Idaho, even Latah County, that weapon and hunting laws are violated?

  w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: the lockshop 
  To: Art Deco ; Vision 2020 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 5:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FW: discharging firearms- was Pres mans-up,Crabtree doesn't


  Hunting with automatic firearms has been illegal in every one of the United States (Idaho and Wyoming most certainly not excepted) for at least the last 4 decades.

  g





  Wayne A. Fox
  1009 Karen Lane
  PO Box 9421
  Moscow, ID  83843

  waf at moscow.com
  208 882-7975



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