[Vision2020] Sign seen in Genesee

[Paul Rumelhart]

Gary,

What is the alternative to welfare, food stamps, and unemployment 
checks?  It only makes sense that when the economy is doing poorly that 
more people would be falling on hard times and thus more aid would be 
needed.  I've never really understood why these programs are fought so 
aggressively.  Yes, the system is not perfect -  people can and do 
defraud the American people by abusing these programs.  However, for a 
great many people who have come upon hard times through no fault of 
their own these programs allow them to put food on the table for 
themselves and their families while they are trying to get another job 
and make ends meet.  We give millions in charitable aid to 
poverty-stricken countries and for disaster relief, but if we give many 
of our own people some help in a devastating recession it's criticized.  
It just seems odd to me.

Paul

the lockshop wrote:
> To say that these programs "help to (1) create jobs, and (2) prevent 
> job loss" is absurd. The CBO's point was that the programs are 
> effective at dumping money into the economy quickly albiet by the 
> expedient of burning dollars we either have to borrow or print. The 
> first adding to the skyrocketing deficit and the second fueling 
> inflation with neither being any kind of a win for the country as a 
> whole. Arguing that extended unemployment benefits prevent or reduce 
> unemployment only makes a twisted kind of sense if not working is your 
> chosen vocation. For many, especially those who find 99 weeks worth 
> inadequate, this may indeed be the case.
>  
> g
>  
> By the way, a big welcome to Mr. Waters who is clearly trying to do 
> his part to help stamp out internet forum incest.
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Reggie Holmquist <mailto:reggieholmquist at u.boisestate.edu>
>     *To:* Rob Waters <mailto:robwaters74 at gmail.com>
>     *Cc:* Vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com>
>     *Sent:* Monday, November 01, 2010 3:52 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Sign seen in Genesee
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>     Actually, the argument was that these programs help to (1) create
>     jobs, and (2) prevent job loss.  Under the Republican policy of
>     cutting government and doing nothing, the economy would simply
>     crumble during a recession, turning it into a depression.
>
>     LOL
>
>     On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Rob Waters <robwaters74 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:robwaters74 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Sorry if this shows up twice, but I'm new and my first try
>         seems to have been rejected.
>          
>         R
>          
>         See...It only took a few minutes before someone on here
>         "Tried" to convince us that welfare, food stamps, and
>         unemployment were as good as jobs.
>          
>         LOL
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