[Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA

Dave tiedye at turbonet.com
Mon Nov 1 08:58:02 PDT 2010


Not edited, it was on her website until it started circulating around 
the web with the Lewis quote attached.

Dave


On 10/31/2010 08:23 PM, Gary Crabtree wrote:
> Indeed, what in the world would the extreme left do without Photoshop 
> to occupy their copious free time.
> g
>
> *From:* Rosemary <mailto:donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:13 PM
> *To:* 'KRFP' <mailto:krfp at radiofreemoscow.org> ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
> <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA
>
> I can't believe how apropos this photo is -- on so many levels! Thanks 
> so much for sharing.
>
> Rose
>
> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
> <mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com> 
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] *On Behalf Of *KRFP
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:20 PM
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA
>
> Like this?
>
>
>
> Oh and a quick search says it was Sinclair Lewis in 1935
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 10/31/2010 12:56 PM, keely emerinemix wrote:
>
> Rosemary writes:
>
> "Of course, I'm suspicious of any civilian group that wraps the flag 
> around their agenda."
>
> I'm afraid I don't know who first said this, but I agree, and it's 
> highly relevant this election season:
>
> "When fascism comes to the United States, it will be wrapped in the 
> flag and carrying a cross."
>
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com <http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com>
>
>
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> From: donaldrose at cpcinternet.com <mailto:donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>
> To: ringoshirl at moscow.com <mailto:ringoshirl at moscow.com>; 
> vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 08:41:31 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA
>
> Thank you Shirley for a thoughtful response to Gary's question.  Many 
> of my family members enjoy hunting and own guns.   From my 
> perspective, however,  an "F" rating from the NRA is a badge of 
> honor.  Ranting about 2^nd amendment rights by louts who would be 
> unable to discuss (intelligently) any other constitutional issue rings 
> more than a little hollow to me.  Of course, I'm suspicious of any 
> civilian group that wraps the flag around their agenda.
>
> Rosemary
>
> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
> <mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com> 
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] *On Behalf Of *ringoshirl
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:23 AM
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA
>
> Visionaries:
>
> Gary Crabtree has requested a discussion from me concerning my low 
> rating from the National Rifle Association.  It's interesting to me 
> that Mr. Crabtree did not attend any of the forums, nor take the time 
> to submit a question during the KRFP interview.  I am also 
> uncomfortable with his vitriolic comments towards people with whom he 
> disagrees politically.  After asking me to respond, he brands my 
> answer "rhetoric" in advance.
>
> However, he has raised an issue about which some of you may be 
> curious, so I will give a candid response.
>
> I have many friends who are sportsmen, belong to the NRA, and enjoy 
> their publications.  I think the organization provides a service that 
> people appreciate.  I also think that, at times, their political 
> action wing has been over the top.
>
> This is a powerful lobbying group in the Idaho Legislature.  Many 
> legislators just produce the votes the NRA requests because of its 
> powerful influence.  During my service in the Legislature, I have not 
> always voted according to their wishes.  I have listened to 
> constituents who have contacted me.  I have contacted attorneys to 
> determine whether the legislation was deemed necessary by them.  After 
> weighing all information, I vote according to what seems most 
> responsible, and I never take this lightly.
>
> Gun safety is very important to me.  In the most recent session, the 
> majority passed legislation stipulating that firearms manufactured 
> exclusively in Idaho would be exempt from federal regulations.  I 
> think that is dangerous and irresponsible.  Our Attorney General said 
> it was likely unconstitutional.  My vote was one of the few against 
> that legislation.
>
> During my five terms in the legislature, I have not introduced 
> legislation that would threaten anybody's second amendment rights.  I 
> have none planned.  Nobody enjoys a low rating from a political action 
> group, and we should always listen to all sides of an issue before 
> voting.  But our legislative decision-making should not be driven by a 
> desire for high ratings.
>
> Shirley Ringo
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