[Vision2020] Say What?

Mon Mar 29 20:48:47 PDT 2010

Gary --

No, that'd be when he's addressing the Republican party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTd6v3VQf5s

Or when he's addressing the Democrats before passing the health care bill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiYUVdwoHu4

Or, for that matter, when he's addressing elementary school children.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/did-obama-use-teleprompter-talk-elementary-school-children

Of all the talking points, Gary, I simply don't understand why this
one persists. He's twice had a completely impromptu debate with the
entire Republican caucus at the same time. I watched the first one. I
can see why he uses a teleprompter sometimes: he has a tendency to get
professorial when he's speaking extemporaneously, has a tendency to
overconcede in order to co-opt other people's points, and talks down
to people when they mischaracterize his arguments. In other words,
it's his ability as an extemporaneous orator that's in question, not
his command of the facts.

Willing to retract?

-- ACS

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Gary Crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> "complex, detailed, and policy-filled speeches?" Would that be when he is
> addressing elementary school children?
>
>
> http://thenorthwestherald.blogspot.com/2010/01/message-for-obama-quit-using.html
>
> I guess it's hard to pitch big government policy's to the tykes without a
> well prepared presentation.
>
> g
> From: keely emerinemix
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 3:06 PM
> To: lfalen at turbonet.com ; Tom Hansen ; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> I'm sorry, Roger, that you're disappointed.  But I'm even sorrier that you
> would not condemn Bachmann's remarks below, her past diatribes, and the
> inflammatory, hate-filled shouts of so many of the Tea Partyers.  Further,
> it's unfortunate to me that you're unable, or, as I suspect, publicly
> unwilling, to grasp the difference between Sarah Palin's apparent need to
> get through a friendly audience talk by writing things like "energy" and
> "taxes" on her hand and Barack Obama's use of TelePrompTers (looks weird,
> but that's the AP Style standard for the word!) during complex, detailed,
> and policy-filled speeches.  Please consider that.  Your failure to
> distinguish between those two examples, which you brought up, tends to make
> you appear less well-informed and even-handed than I understand you to be.
>
> As for my being a leftist, I can imagine that a good number of Moscow's
> liberals would scoff at any such idea.  I know I would.  I'm a pro-life,
> pro-business, Biblically conservative Democrat, but it appears that despite
> the modifiers, "Democrat" is what you seem to find synonymous with
> "leftist."  Besides, any evangelical Christian who reveres Scripture and
> cares about the Gospel ought to object to Christ Church doctrine and
> practice.  In fact, doing so myself is undeniably a conservative thing for
> me to do.
>
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:06:02 -0700
>> From: lfalen at turbonet.com
>> To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
>>
>> Keely
>> I am disappointed. Although a leftist, you usually show more restraint (
>> except where Christ Church is concerned) than most of the rest of the left
>> wing. The Tea Party movement iis no more bigoted( probably less ) than those
>> on the left. Both the right and the left spend too much time on name
>> calling. People on the left make fun of Palin for taking notes on her hand.
>> Those on the right do the same about Obama's use of the teleprompter, Palin
>> is called an idiot, but I would bet she knows how to correctly pronounce
>> Corpsman. Fox news spent a way too much time on an making a big deal of Reid
>> puting his arm around Pelosi. A big waste of air time.Why don't both sides
>> just discuss the issues without the personnel insults.
>> Roger
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
>> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:18:25 -0700
>> To: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
>>
>> >
>> > Not to worry. In a few years, when this country begins to recognize the
>> > anti-Obama forces for what they are -- namely, devious fearmongers bent on
>> > destroying the man even if they take down many of our country's principles
>> > in the process -- Michele Bachmann will look like the combination of
>> > snake-oil salesman, Joseph McCarthy, King Herod, and Chicken Little that she
>> > really is.
>> >
>> > Of course, in a climate wherein passage of the health care bill drives
>> > Doug Wilson to publish a 10-pt. manifesto on the Christian's Biblical
>> > mandate to resist "tyranny," this likely won't happen soon. But it will.
>> > Someday, Bachmann, Palin, McConnell, Boehner, the Tea Party movement, and
>> > the hysterically bigoted anti-Obama forces they represent will be revealed,
>> > and the U.S. will find itself in a state of deep embarrassment that it ever
>> > listened to them -- a conclusion the rest of the world will have reached
>> > long before.
>> >
>> > Michelle Bachmann is nobody's finest.
>> >
>> > Keely
>> > www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 05:48:18 -0700
>> > > From: thansen at moscow.com
>> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > > Subject: [Vision2020] Say What?
>> > >
>> > > "I said I had very serious concerns that Barack Obama had
>> > > anti-American
>> > > views. And now I look like Nostradamus."
>> > >
>> > > - Rep. Michele Bachmann
>> > >
>> > > The StarTribune (Minneapolis-St.Paul, Minnesota)
>> > > http://www.startribune.com/templates/Print_This_Story?sid=89083827
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > > Seeya round town, Moscow.
>> > >
>> > > Tom Hansen
>> > > Moscow, Idaho
>> > >
>> > > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
>> > > change
>> > > and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>> > >
>> > > - Unknown
>> > >
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