[Vision2020] Health care {insurance} reform passed

[Andreas Schou]

Also, what Ron said.

-- ACS

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Under the reconciliation bill in the Senate, the Fed picks up 100% of the
> increase in Medicaid until 2016; 95% in 2017; 94%in 2018; and 93% in 2019.
> By 2020 I would bet we're looking at a greatly modified health care system,
> moving closer to single-payer.
>
> How many of the new Medicaid patients are already having their medical bills
> paid by the county? Or having their bills paid by insured patients because
> the Drs/hospitals can't collect?
>
> Ron Force
> Moscow ID USA
>
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> From: Love America <skialaska0 at gmail.com>
> To: Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com>
> Cc: vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>; Donovan Arnold
> <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 6:17:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Health care {insurance} reform passed
>
> A lot of you are missing the point of why states need to stop certain
> aspects of the new health care law...
> Look at FY08 Medicaid spending in Idaho... $369,000,000 for around 220,000
> residents or around $1670 per person.  Under the new law everyone who is
> Medicaid eligible will be required to go on Medicaid.   A quick glance at
> the number of people in Idaho reveals that around 450,000 residents fit the
> new guidelines...The entire budget of the university system was $399 million
> in FY08.  So double the amount of money the state is forced to spend
> and what is left for the state to do?   Shut down the entire university
> system?  Double state income and sales taxes?  Just about every state has a
> severe budget crisis now, how in the heck does each state handle doubling
> the number of residents on Medicaid??? Idaho, Alaska, Arizona, etc. is not
> going to get more funds from the federal government to cover Medicaid.
>
> Then add in that Medicaid sucks, you have no real choice of doctors, they
> decide your treatment plans and options, they can deny "expensive"
> medications, many states drug test those who receive Medicaid, other add in
> the insult of throwing in various child protective service requirements.  It
> is clear that members of both political parties consider those to be
> on Medicaid to be drugged out child beaters since we all know poor folks are
> evil...Once the poor in this country realize how shafted they are under this
> new system maybe they will complain...but I doubt it.   Have any of you
> actually read the new law?  Please read it, ignore the commentators and
> politicians and news outlets, just read it and realize what we have just
> done as a nation.  It is scary.   If we really want government health care
> lets just do it right and adopt Canada's plan....
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Donovan --
>> I just took a look at those numbers again (they didn't look right) and
>> found that I made a mistake in my back-of-the-envelope corrections.
>> At a 3% rate of inflation, the family of two you described comes out over
>> the 133%-of-poverty threshold, making her (based on her unmodified gross
>> income) ineligible for Medicaid. Interestingly, she makes $184 dollars over
>> the poorest possible individual that might have have to pay for insurance.
>> This indicates that whomever you're relying on for your numbers invented her
>> as the poorest possible person to have to pay for health care, receiving the
>> lowest possible subsidy.
>> Unfortunately, however, while the health care bill eliminates certain
>> exemptions for modified gross income (like child-care) for eligibility
>> purposes, it includes an unconditional exemption equal to 5% of the poverty
>> line, or a little over $750 in 2014 dollars. Consequently, she just barely
>> scrapes under the wire for eligibility, and can receive Medicaid, which
>> exempts her from the mandate.
>> -- ACS
>>
>> * http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2010/03/19/the-health-care-reform-reconciliation-bill/
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