[Vision2020] Teabaggers
Joe Campbell
philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Sat Mar 13 19:49:10 PST 2010
That makes no sense. Am I a Christian fundamentalist liar? I'm not.
Your friend, Joe
On Mar 13, 2010, at 9:41 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com
> wrote:
> Prof. Campbell,
>
> You are being very disingenuous, and everyone knows it, especially
> you.
>
> Your Friend,
>
> Donovan
>
> --- On Sat, 3/13/10, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Teabaggers
> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 7:53 PM
>
> First, NO argument means NO ad hominem fallacy. I'm not sure why it
> is so hard for you to understand this, now that I've said it three
> times. Of course, likely you do understand it and you're pretending
> not to. Another bit of the Wilson jackass rhetoric -- just make
> negative comments about your opponent and keep repeating them even
> after hearing the well explained denials. Tell the lie long enough
> and folks believe it. Nice trick -- if you don't mind being a public
> liar.
>
> Second, "teabaggers" is at most ambiguous. If your dirty mind keeps
> picking up the one (of five or six) dirty meaning, it says more
> about you than me. And since I see your disapproval as being based
> on your homophobia, you'll get no sympathy from me. No more than if
> your bigotry caused you to complain about my use of the term
> "blacksmith." Sorry but change won't happen if we follow advice from
> those who have the prejudice. In any event, it is clear that I'm not
> intending the sexual meaning of the term, so your comments are
> offbase.
>
> Third, you are NOT Donovan. Maybe you're fooling others but not me.
> Donovan would not complain about the difference between "horses" and
> "horse's", a mistake he would be unlikely to notice. And he wasn't
> homophobic.
>
> Folks should wonder why so many people from the same church lie and
> why they won't post using ther own name. My guess is because they
> are more of a political group than a religious group. That should
> concern us all -- liberal or conservative. It should concern folks
> from the church, who are being used for political purpose.
>
> I'll point out that you are a liar and a fake whenever I can. You
> can always prove me wrong by joining me for lunch -- you and Glenn
> Schwaller and Selena Davis. I'll pick up the tab! Again, why do
> fundamentalist Christians lie so much -- or at least the local ones?
> That is another question folks should ask!
>
> Your friend, Joe
>
> On Mar 13, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> You got a PhD. So I am going to assume you aren't an idiot, and
>> just pretend to be one sometimes like the rest of us on the V.
>>
>> Teabaggers is an ad hominem attack, because it is an attempt to
>> degrade some of the legitimate concerns of tens of millions of
>> Americans by giving them a name which is perceived as an sexual
>> pejorative. It is a red herring and an ad hominem.
>>
>> Your Friend,
>>
>> Donovan
>>
>> --- On Sat, 3/13/10, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Teabaggers
>> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 5:01 PM
>>
>> "Teabaggers" is a name, not an argument. Something must be an
>> argument before it can be an ad hominem argument. I keep making
>> this point and you don't seem to get it. Not sure I can make it any
>> simpler than this. Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Prof Campbell,
>>>
>>> I know the definition of an an ad hominem attack. But that is not
>>> how your friend Wayne Price was using it and I used it under his
>>> understanding.
>>>
>>> I do make personal attacks, but only to people that personally
>>> have attacked me first or members of my family. When they throw
>>> punches at me, I will throw them back, and twice as hard--just as
>>> you do with with local lock shop keeper.
>>> If you get your buddies to not personally attack me, I will be
>>> happy to see your wager. But I am not going to idly stand on the
>>> sidelines while your friends attack me personally for my opinions
>>> while they throw accolades to you and your ideas which are mostly
>>> identical to their own and pretend it is a fair and even wager.
>>>
>>> You don't think teabaggers is an ad hominem attack?
>>>
>>> Your Friend,
>>>
>>> Donovan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 3/13/10, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Teabaggers
>>> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 3:16 PM
>>>
>>> Donovan,
>>>
>>> Not all personal attacks are ad hominem arguments.
>>>
>>> If I say "anyone who thinks that slavery is OK is an idiot" that
>>> is not an ad hominem attack. It is just an insult and a comment.
>>> First, ad hominem arguments are ARGUMENTS, not comments. Second,
>>> they are invalid arguments.
>>>
>>> I admit I'm insulting at times but I don't use fallacies. And you
>>> are not in any position to be lecturing people who are insulting.
>>> I'll tell you what, let's see who can go longer without insulting
>>> opponents: you or Me.
>>>
>>> Your friend, Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mr. Price,
>>>>
>>>> When Prof. Campbell, you, Rev. Keely, Sgt. Hamster, and Batman,
>>>> attacks me personally or someone else on the list or in our
>>>> community is that called an ad hominem attack too, or is that
>>>> definition reserved for only when I do it in response to someone
>>>> else doing it to me first?
>>>>
>>>> Donovan Arnold
>>>>
>>>> --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Teabaggers
>>>> To: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com>, "Moscow
>>>> Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>> Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 5:50 PM
>>>>
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>> Arnie's continued use of ad hominem attacks that have no
>>>> validity are just proof that it doesn't take all kinds, we just
>>>> have all kinds.
>>>> The good thing is that once he makes these outrageous attacks
>>>> and fractured historical ideas, he shows himself for what he is.
>>>> The readers of his diatribes on here can make up their own minds
>>>> as to what that is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
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>>>> On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Joe Campbell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What is pro-slavery about saying it is ALWAYS wrong to buy and
>>>>> KEEP slaves? You need to get away from the Wilson crap rhetoric.
>>>>> You are starting to believe your own lies! Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr. Joe Campbell,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why are you Pro-Slavery? I don't understand. Don't you know
>>>>>> slavery is wrong.
>>>>>> I would think someone with a PhD would know that owning another
>>>>>> person is a grave ill against Humanity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It strikes me as a great concern that a Professor at a major
>>>>>> University would be defending the institution of Slavery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand your obsession and ability to relate to the past,
>>>>>> but slavery is not something I think you should embrace in any
>>>>>> form, shape or manner, much less want to bring back into modern
>>>>>> society.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I pray you will reconsider your pro-slavery, and pro-
>>>>>> segregationist attitude, for the good your own life, and your
>>>>>> students at Washington State University.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your Friend,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Donovan Arnold
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Teabaggers
>>>>>> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>>>> Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 3:46 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing sounds mote bigoted than a defense if slavery!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Arnie believes that the Democrats were pro-segregation and
>>>>>>> the Republicans
>>>>>>> were anti-Vietnam back in the 60s and 70s." --Sgt. Hamster
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suppose the following Democrats and laws were figments of my
>>>>>>> imagination or perhaps The Hamster believes the KKK was not a
>>>>>>> racist movement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim Crow Laws
>>>>>>> Senator Robert Byrd
>>>>>>> Hugo Black
>>>>>>> Senator Strom Thurmond
>>>>>>> Gov. George Corley Wallace, Jr.
>>>>>>> Senator Ernest Hollings
>>>>>>> Richard Russell, Jr.
>>>>>>> James Eastland
>>>>>>> John Stenni
>>>>>>> Jesse Helms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recently, Democrats have been better at not being bigoted
>>>>>>> toward Blacks, Gays, Women, and minorities. But that is only a
>>>>>>> general rule, not applicable in every case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nixon and Ford ended the Vietnam War, both Republicans. JFK
>>>>>>> and Johnson escalated it. So indeed, the parties have switched
>>>>>>> positions since the 1960s. In fact, many people switched
>>>>>>> political parties after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your Friend,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Donovan Arnold
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Teabaggers
>>>>>>> To: "Wayne Price" <bear at moscow.com>, "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 10:06 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wayne -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To put Arnie into appropriate perspective, here is one of his
>>>>>>> similarly
>>>>>>> profound quotes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Both parties are completely different than they were in the
>>>>>>> 1960s and
>>>>>>> 1970s when Democrats were pro-segregation and Republicans were
>>>>>>> anti-war."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Donovan Arnold (March 5, 2010)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2010-March/068911.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's right, Wayne.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arnie believes that the Democrats were pro-segregation and the
>>>>>>> Republicans
>>>>>>> were anti-Vietnam back in the 60s and 70s.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's as if President Johnson's Civil Rights Act of 1964 and
>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>> Nixon's 1968 campaign promise that we would be out of Vietnam
>>>>>>> by the end
>>>>>>> of 1969 (followed five years later with his "Withdrawal With
>>>>>>> Honor"
>>>>>>> concept of 1974) never happened.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Clearly Dr Donovan, you are correct and the Mount Vernon
>>>>>>> Society ( The
>>>>>>> > folks that OWN Mt. Vernon) are wrong. How could I have been
>>>>>>> so silly
>>>>>>> > to trust what they said and not you?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > http://www.mountvernon.org/learn/meet_george/index.cfm/ss/101/
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > "George Washington was born into a world in which slavery was
>>>>>>> > accepted. He became a slave owner when his father died in
>>>>>>> 1743. At the
>>>>>>> > age of eleven, he inherited ten slaves and 500 acres of
>>>>>>> land. When he
>>>>>>> > began farming Mount Vernon eleven years later, at the age of
>>>>>>> 22, he
>>>>>>> > had a work force of about 36 slaves. With his marriage to
>>>>>>> Martha
>>>>>>> > Custis in 1759, 20 of her slaves came to Mount Vernon. After
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> > marriage, Washington purchased even more slaves. The slave
>>>>>>> population
>>>>>>> > also increased because the slaves were marrying and raising
>>>>>>> their own
>>>>>>> > families. By 1799, when George Washington died, there were
>>>>>>> 316 slaves
>>>>>>> > living on the estate."
>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> Rev. Keely, nobody is defending slavery. Let me say it
>>>>>>> twice so even
>>>>>>> >> you understand, NOBODY is defending slavery. I was just
>>>>>>> explaining
>>>>>>> >> inaccuracies in his (Mr. Price's) posts about Thomas
>>>>>>> Jefferson
>>>>>>> >> sleeping with his slaves and George Washington being a
>>>>>>> large slave
>>>>>>> >> owner. They are factually incorrect statements.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I forgot, accuracy of the facts was not a concern for you,
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> >> unfounded misguided displays of fake catty emotional
>>>>>>> outrage, Keely
>>>>>>> >> when slandering people on both the local and national
>>>>>>> level, living
>>>>>>> >> and dead.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Your Friend,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Donovan Arnold
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> --- On Thu, 3/11/10, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> From: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>>>>>>> >> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Teabaggers
>>>>>>> >> To: donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com, garrettmc at verizon.net,
>>>>>>> "Chris
>>>>>>> >> Price" <bear at moscow.com>
>>>>>>> >> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>>> >> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 3:37 PM
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> This eloquent defense of slave-owning American Presidents is
>>>>>>> >> something less than heartening. It's almost as if we've
>>>>>>> heard
>>>>>>> >> similar arguments before from local folks interested in
>>>>>>> convincing
>>>>>>> >> us that, you know, on the whole, slavery wasn't, like, THAT
>>>>>>> bad,
>>>>>>> >> really.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> That George and Thomas are numbered among anti-slavery
>>>>>>> >> abolitionists, as appears to be the contention here, is as
>>>>>>> ludicrous
>>>>>>> >> as it is offensive. They may not have been the absolutely
>>>>>>> worst
>>>>>>> >> slaveholders ever, but I don't think either man's
>>>>>>> biographies are
>>>>>>> >> testimonies to their egalitarian, Christian, progressive
>>>>>>> morals.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Keely
>>>>>>> >> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:48:58 -0800
>>>>>>> >> From: donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com
>>>>>>> >> To: garrettmc at verizon.net; bear at moscow.com
>>>>>>> >> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Teabaggers
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Wayne,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> The tea was tipped overboard not because most people drank
>>>>>>> it, but
>>>>>>> >> because it denied revenue to the British. The average
>>>>>>> colonists
>>>>>>> >> didn't want to be independent from the British, but they
>>>>>>> were not
>>>>>>> >> happy under them either.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> The British government prevented western expansion which
>>>>>>> seriously
>>>>>>> >> hindered the expansion of the economy and the well being of
>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>> >> western colonists and farmers.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Thomas Jefferson bought slaves and freed them when they
>>>>>>> paid their
>>>>>>> >> price of purchase off. Many anti-slavery people did this.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Thomas Jefferson did not sleep with his slaves, DNA tests
>>>>>>> from his
>>>>>>> >> know relatives prove this. His brother did sleep with Sally
>>>>>>> >> Hemmings, who was the half sister of his wife who passed
>>>>>>> away and
>>>>>>> >> looked a great deal like her. He cared for her greatly and
>>>>>>> she lived
>>>>>>> >> in his house because she was his wife's sister and didn't
>>>>>>> want her
>>>>>>> >> living as a common slave.
>>>>>>> >> George Washington had willed his slaves to be freed upon
>>>>>>> the death
>>>>>>> >> of his wife. Although she freed them earlier because she felt
>>>>>>> >> uncomfortable with all the slaves asking if she was dead
>>>>>>> yet (a
>>>>>>> >> little humor, but true). Little do people know, but George
>>>>>>> >> Washington did not own many slaves, his wife owned most
>>>>>>> them, she
>>>>>>> >> obtained from her previous husband, Daniel Parke Custis a
>>>>>>> wealthy
>>>>>>> >> plantation farmer, upon his death.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Your Friend,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Donovan Arnold
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> From: Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com>
>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Teabaggers
>>>>>>> >> To: "Garrett Clevenger" <garrettmc at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> >> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>>> >> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 12:52 AM
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Garrett,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> While the Tea Bag movement has hijacked the name, I'm not
>>>>>>> so sure
>>>>>>> >> they even realize what the 1770's movements were all about!
>>>>>>> >> The average colonist was happy being British!
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> At that time in the colonies, TEA was not the drink of the
>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>> >> (read that as NOT wealthy) colonist. Rather they drank
>>>>>>> cider,
>>>>>>> >> because they could make
>>>>>>> >> it locally, and could afford it. Ever wonder why real tea
>>>>>>> chests of
>>>>>>> >> the period have a locks on them? Because it was expensive
>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>> >> rich didn't want the servants to
>>>>>>> >> steal it! The original so called "patriots" were nothing
>>>>>>> more than
>>>>>>> >> a bunch of folks with money trying to avoid taxes. Sound
>>>>>>> familiar?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Same deal with the folks that shot at government troops on
>>>>>>> their way
>>>>>>> >> to and from Lexington and Concord to bring the GOVERNMENT
>>>>>>> owned arms
>>>>>>> >> and powder back
>>>>>>> >> to Boston, so the colonists/traitors/early american
>>>>>>> terrorists
>>>>>>> >> couldn't use it. Can you imagine today if that happened?
>>>>>>> Makes me
>>>>>>> >> wonder what would happen if the
>>>>>>> >> average citizens marched on the local National Guard
>>>>>>> armories so
>>>>>>> >> that they could prevent the government from using the arms!
>>>>>>> Think
>>>>>>> >> they would be considered
>>>>>>> >> "patriots"?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I have to laugh when I see the fractured history that George
>>>>>>> >> Nethercutt is trying to sell on TV..... Did the boy never
>>>>>>> read a
>>>>>>> >> history book! I laughed when I saw one about
>>>>>>> >> George Washington being anti-slavery! One of the richest
>>>>>>> slave
>>>>>>> >> OWNERS in Virginia at the time! And then there is that
>>>>>>> scion of
>>>>>>> >> colonial america Thomas Jefferson,
>>>>>>> >> he not only owned slaves, but would bed them too! Or was
>>>>>>> that just
>>>>>>> >> for the benefit of the slaves?
>>>>>>> >>
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>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Garrett Clevenger wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Thanks, Joe, you summed up well what I've been thinking.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> It is rather presumptious of the teabaggers to think their
>>>>>>> "tea
>>>>>>> >> party movement" is anything close to the real deal back
>>>>>>> when the
>>>>>>> >> colonies were fighting for independence.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> The contemporary tea partiers are more like carpetbaggers
>>>>>>> in that
>>>>>>> >> regard, so it seems "teabagger" is a rather appropriate term.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I have no idea what the sexual definition of teabagger is
>>>>>>> and don't
>>>>>>> >> really care to so when I say "teabagger" I'm describing
>>>>>>> "tea party"
>>>>>>> >> people who are exploiting the patriotism of the Boston Tea
>>>>>>> Party.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> But are we really surprised that people who carry guns in
>>>>>>> the open
>>>>>>> >> to rallies and shout down those who disagree with them
>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>> >> anything less than arrogant?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Teabaggers, indeed.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Garrett Clevenger
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