[Vision2020] Highway 12

[Ron Force]

An Idaho agency saying "No" to big business?
Ahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahhha (ROFL)

No alternatives, as it appears. Washington and BC roads are out because of bridges/overpasses.

The official name for the project: Kearl Module Transportation Project. Google it for info.
One of the more comprehensive articles:
http://www.greatfallstribune.com/article/20100521/NEWS01/5210319/Foes-fear-long-term-high-and-wide-corridor

The article mentions that the Port of Lewiston is planning a $2.8 million dock upgrade to handle more such loads. Opponents claim that the two states envision a permanent haul corridor to service future expansion of the Alberta oil fields and other mega-projects.

Ron Force
Moscow ID USA



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From: Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com>
To: Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com>
Cc: Bill London <london at moscow.com>; ringoshirl <ringoshirl at moscow.com>; vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 3:35:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Highway 12

Ron,

Just one question. IF  IDOT says no, what alternative is there? 


Wayne






On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Ron Force wrote:

From an article in The Missoulian:
>"The oil company seeks permission to haul 207 loads that are taller than a three-story building, as wide as a two-lane highway and 75 yards long. The so-called "high and wide corridor" would enter Montana at Lolo Pass."
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>From the description, this picture is probably accurate:
>http://wolves.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/tar-sands-protest/
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>Ron Force
>Moscow ID USA
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From: Bill London <london at moscow.com>
>To: ringoshirl <ringoshirl at moscow.com>
>Cc: vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 12:20:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Highway 12
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>Thanks for your interest in this Highway 12 oil-equipment issue.
>I am trying to understand the size of these loads.
>I saw a photo that supposedly placed a loaded logging truck next to one of the loads --and the oil equipment load was easily 20 times the size of the logging truck.  But, it could have been a photo-shop scam.
>Do you have access to any photos that provide a clear sense of the size of these loads, like placed in comparison to another vehicle?
>BL
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>>From: ringoshirl
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:22 AM
>>Subject: [Vision2020] Highway 12
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>>Visionaries:
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>>Regarding the US Highway 12 transport of equipment:
>>According to Idaho Code, the Department of Transportation decision for issuing a permit is mostly engineering-based.   The state of Montana has more restrictive laws with respect to issuing permits.  According to the Department of Transportation, Idaho’s process involves such details as examining loads, clearance, and dealing with convenience to the public.   One major concern would involve the removal of one of these huge barrels should there be an accident that would, for example, put it in the river.   I wondered about Idaho approved routes for heavy trucks, but this does not apply to US highways.
>>According to the Department of Transportation representative to whom I spoke, Conoco-Phillips and EXXON-Mobile have agreed to hold public meetings to discuss the plans.  They will probably be held in Lewiston and Kooskia, and will be announced in the paper.  The Idaho Department of Transportation has not yet issues the permit.
>>Shirley RIngo
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