[Vision2020] Juvenile Shooting Suspect Back in Custody

[Janesta]

These young men should have never been released back into the community.

As far as electronic monitoring?? Latah County is comprised of 1.077 square
miles. Perhaps someone in the know can enlighten me as to how many Latah
County Deputies, or Idaho State Patrol Officers are within, oh, say... 15
minutes of apprehending the remaining young man, should he decide to beat
feet, and hit the road running? Sure, eventually, he will be caught, but at
what cost to our communities?

 I ask myself if Deary High School would have been the next Columbine.
Hopefully, we will never know. Had this incident occurred on I-5 it would
have been on CNN.

I am pro-hunting, and gun ownership. However, these young men had none, and
should be held accountable.

Janesta





On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Donovan Arnold <
donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Saundra,
>
> If your daughter or husband was shot at by these boys driving home, would
> you want the person shooting at him or her to be released with just an
> electronic bracelet? I would hope not. Or would you want that person to be
> kept from weapons and the general population until their proclivities to
> harm others was under control?
>
> I don't agree with releasing sexual predators into the general public
> either without supervision and years of rehabilitation and punishment for
> their crimes. Not set free with a bracelet. So your example only reinforced
> my lack of faith in our legal system.
>
> I don't claim to be an expert on the juvenile system or their behavior..
> However, the lawyers responsible for the release of at least one of these
> two young men are the ones that obviously are in need of a better education.
> He almost killed people, and they certainly did more damage to this young
> man and his family by the choice of not sending him to a correctional
> facility where he clearly needs assistance beyond what one or two parents
> can provide.
>
> The budget cuts in Idaho don't impact prisons, they effect public education
> and care for the poor, elderly, and disabled. You obviously aren't aware of
> the Governor's priorities if you didn't know this.
>
> I'm sure prisons are horrible places, as you claim. Surprise! They are not
> meant to be theme parks. They are prisons. And the chances of becoming a
> victim of rape in a prison as well as any other type of victim is greater.
> Our legal system should do a better job of protecting juveniles from
> incidences which increase their chances or being hardened criminals when
> released. However, prisons should be places people don't want to go to as
> deterrent from a crime filled life.
>
> Your statistic of 1 in 8 for males in prison getting sexually violated,
> oddly enough, is about 1/2 the same statistic for women being sexually
> violated,  1 in 4, coincidentally, by criminals not in prison. All the
> better the reason to leave the people violators in prison, not out here.
>
> Your Friend,
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
> --- On *Sat, 1/30/10, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl.fastmail.fm>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl.fastmail.fm>
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Juvenile Shooting Suspect Back in Custody
> To: "'Donovan Arnold'" <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com>, "'Moscow Vision
> 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "'Tom Hansen'" <thansen at moscow.com>
> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 8:23 AM
>
>
>  Donovan wrote:
>
> “It is should be obvious that these two boys need help long before they
> are released.”
>
>
>
> Where exactly do you think they’d get help locked up, particularly given
> the current budget gutting in Idaho?  And, it’s not like they were released
> without a laundry-list of restrictions, including electronic monitoring, for
> Pete’s sake.  Besides, *convicted* sexual predators are routinely released
> all over Idaho to get themselves to & from “counseling” – do you really
> think these two boys present a greater risk than convicted sexual
> predators?!
>
>
>
> Clearly, you are ignorant about the state of the juvenile justice system in
> our country.  I highly recommend reading Nicholas Kristof’s shocking &
> powerful editorial entitled “Kids in Crisis (Behind Bars)”:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/28/opinion/28kristof.html?ref=opinion
>
> Maybe Rodney would have been safer in a juvenile correctional facility, but
> then again maybe not. A stunning new Justice Department special report<http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svjfry09.pdf>,
> released just this month, underscores how widespread rape is in youth
> correctional facilities. It found that almost one youth in eight reported
> being sexually assaulted while behind bars in the last year.
>
> That means that a child in custody is about twice as likely to be raped as
> an adult behind bars, based on similar surveys of adult prisoners. As The
> New York Review of Books wrote on its blog<http://blogs.nybooks.com/post/321666354/the-crisis-of-juvenile-prison-rape-a-new-report>,
> we face a “crisis of juvenile prison rape.”
>
> The National Prison Rape Elimination Commission, a blue-ribbon panel that
> issued its final report <http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/226680.pdf> last
> year, described how a 14-year-old boy weighing 98 pounds was assaulted after
> he was made to share a cell with two older teenagers. Both were 6 feet 2
> inches, and one weighed 160 pounds and the other 195 pounds.
>
> Surprisingly, the new survey suggests that the biggest predators are not
> other inmates but prison staff — and female staff members offend as much as
> the males do. More than 10 percent of boys in juvenile correctional
> facilities said that they had had sex with staff, most of whom were women.
>
> Among girls, almost 5 percent said that they had engaged in sexual activity
> with staff, most of whom were men.
>
> Sadly, those in the know have long recognized that juvenile detention
> facilities – even here in Idaho – are far more likely to turn out hardened
> offenders with increased criminal skills than anything else.  While it may
> be a necessary evil for those convicted, it doesn’t seem a particularly wise
> or desirable move for unsophisticated juveniles who haven’t been convicted
> of anything yet.
>
>
>
> If you have the stomach for it, do take the time to read the Justice
> Department’s special report, which you can find here:
>
> http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svjfry09.pdf
>
>
>
>
>
> Saundra Lund
>
> Moscow, ID
>
>
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
>
> ~ Edmund Burke
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:
> vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] *On Behalf Of *Donovan Arnold
> *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 6:23 PM
> *To:* Moscow Vision 2020; Tom Hansen
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Juvenile Shooting Suspect Back in Custody
>
>
>
> Dare I ask the obvious question here; "Why the hell where this two released
> in the first place?"
>
>
>
> Come on, I mean get a freaking clue. They were shooting a people. What kind
> of messed up legal system do we have that lets people that shoot other
> people out of lock up?
>
>
>
> It is should be obvious that these two boys need help long before they are
> released.
>
>
>
> Your Friend,
>
>
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 1/30/10, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Juvenile Shooting Suspect Back in Custody
> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 12:48 AM
>
> Courtesy of the Lewiston Tribune.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Juvenile shooting suspect back in custody after pipe bomb found
>
> HELMER -- One of the two juveniles arrested in connection with the
> shooting of up to 20 vehicles on State Highway 8 last week has been taken
> back into custody after investigators found a pipe bomb at his residence
> during a search Thursday, according to the Latah County Sheriff's Office.
>
> Deputies were executing a search warrant as part of the investigation into
> the Jan. 22 shootings, according to a news release this afternoon from Lt.
> Brannon Jordan.. Officials evacuated the area around the home, and a bomb
> squad from Spokane responded and neutralized the device, according to
> Jordan.
>
> Austin Blake Medlock and Austin James Rickert, both 14-year-old freshmen
> at Deary High School, allegedly used two .22-caliber rifles and a crossbow
> to shoot at the vehicles, according to court records. The news release
> does not specify which teen was taken back into custody, and a dispatcher
> at the sheriff's office said she was told not to release the suspect's
> name.
>
> The teen arrested Thursday is now charged with felony unlawful possession
> of bombs or destructive devices in addition to the earlier charge of
> unlawfully discharging a firearm at a vehicle, according to the news
> release.
>
> County Magistrate John Judge released Medlock and Rickert to their parents
> after a hearing Monday on the condition that neither leave the sight of
> one of their parents, that all guns be removed from their homes, that they
> not touch a firearm, that the parents take them to and from school, that
> they both wear electronic monitoring devices and that they agree to be
> searched at any time by authorities.
>
> No one was injured in the shootings, but one bullet passed through the
> passenger compartment of one car, narrowly missing two girls.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>
> - Unknown
>
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