[Vision2020] Please Cite From Peer Reviewed Science Journal Re: The Great Thermometer Die Off

[Ted Moffett]

Please cite a credible peer reviewed science journal publication where the
E. M. Smith (or is this name false?) in question has published this work on
temperature data that you reference.

If the information on temperature data you provide is not sourced from a
peer reviewed credible science journal, I'm not going to spend time
contemplating it in detail.

Junk science on climate issues on the Internet is so rampant, someone could
spend all their waking hours separating the wheat from the chaff.  The peer
review process in science publishing greatly reduces the garbage science
that a person would otherwise have to sort through.

Can you offer information on the professional qualifications of E. M. Smith
that render his climate science work credible?  I found information on E. M
Smith's qualifications on the "Musings from the Chiefio" blog, but
they offer no reason to take his work on climate science seriously (
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/about/ ).

With admitted limited effort, I found no references to *any* "E. M. Smith"
peer reviewed climate science publications.

He misspells "Bachelors" when he informs he has a "Bachlors in Economics."

Of course, sometimes peer reviewed science journals make mistakes, and junk
science slips past the peer review process. And there are no doubt
worthwhile ideas that are not published in peer reviewed journals.

But I don't find credible the allegation that there is a vast international
conspiracy among scientists (or widespread incompetence) to fabricate a hoax
or manufacture faulty science that is deceiving the world about human
impacts on climate.  Given the consensus on this issue, this is what would
need to be occurring for the professional science from nations around the
world to be in error while also in such compelling agreement that human
impacts on climate are profound.

E. M. Smith's (or whoever he or she is) professional background, from his
blog:

http://chiefio.wordpress.com/about/
 Paper Trails

I have an Bachlors in Economics from the U.C. system. I also have a pot load
of credits from some various Community Colleges in everything from
“Transistor and Semiconductor Theory” to “American Sign Language”. Oh, and a
load of graduate level Education Theory units needed to get a teaching
credential from the California State University system. And dozens and
dozens of “industrial” classes that various employers sent me off to over
the years. Everything from the RAMIS II database system on IBM mainframes
(All of it. Every class for the 13 or 14 volumes of the manual set. I was a
consultant on it for the maker and they had us “do it all”.) to “online
automated” certification “classes” in Sun’s flavor of Unix so that a vendor
I worked for could keep their sales certificate. And about 9 units toward an
MBA (but that’s another long story…) that I may finish some day, or maybe
not.

I did pick up a Lifetime Teaching Credential at the Community College Level
from the State of California (they don’t make those any more, but I’m
“grandfathered”) in Data Processing and Related Technologies and have taught
for a few years at a local community college. Fun gig.

Wouldn’t mind doing it again. But lots of places now want a Microsoft
Certification and, well, I’m just not interested in that, and never will be.
(I can “do” MS stuff, and have; but see no reason to send MS even more
money. Gates has enough.) The idea that a manufacturers certificate (for
which you must pay a bundle every couple of years) would trump a formal
Credential (and all the mandated training including graduate level education
theory) is, IMHO, broken; but such is life. Why one needs Microsoft (or Red
Hat) to tell you (for a large fee) “what you know”; is beyond me. That’s
what the C.V. and Credential are for…

Oh, and the Institute For The Certification of Computing Professionals
(ICCP) has what they called their “capstone” certification, the CDP, that I
also hold. Why? Don’t ask why… it seemed like a good idea at the time…

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Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett

On 1/16/10, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I'm replying to myself because I got to wondering if Windows and/or most
> people's email clients natively handle png files, since it is an open source
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> Paul
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> Paul Rumelhart wrote:
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>> Some of you know that I was at one time playing around with graphing
>> global temperature data in order to satisfy my curiosity on a number of
>> points related to global warming.  I wish I'd stuck with it.  It turns out
>> that someone else (probably many others) has been doing the same thing.  A
>> programmer named E. M. Smith has done some work with the GISS dataset (I've
>> been using the NCDC one).  He has found that many of the measuring stations
>> which are used for temperature reconstructions across the globe have been
>> removed from the global temperature data sets for recent years.  In fact,
>> the data drops off quickly starting in the 80's (at least in the dataset
>> I've been working with).
>>
>> He has done some research into which stations have been removed, and has
>> apparently found that lots of higher altitude stations have been removed,
>> which would have shown cooler temperatures - leading to a corresponding rise
>> in the average temperatures over the years.  He has a blog which covers this
>> (he goes by the alias "chiefio").  Here is an entry in the blog giving an
>> overview of this topic:
>> http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/gistemp-a-human-view/
>>
>> I have not tried to analyze the stations that drop off of the NCDC data
>> set yet, perhaps I can get a little work done on that soon.
>>
>> I'm also attaching a couple of graphs that I created from the NCDC data
>> which graph the station counts by years.  These are from the global minimums
>> data sets, both normal and adjusted.  I hadn't yet gotten to graphing
>> station counts for the global means and global maximums data sets.  All
>> uniques stations and sub-stations are counted, which will mean that some
>> sub-stations are counted twice if the thermometer is moved or something in
>> that year.  I was at one point trying to find out why these counts dropped
>> off so quickly.  It makes sense that the number of stations would increase
>> over the years, but why the dramatic decrease in station counts?  I had
>> originally thought that perhaps there are delays in collecting data
>> together, but 20-30 year delays?  That doesn't seem plausible.
>>
>> By the way, I learned of this work that E. M. Smith has been doing by
>> watching John Coleman's hour long news special titled "Global Warming - The
>> Other Side".  You can find links to the various parts of this here:
>> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/14/john-colemans-hourlong-news-special-global-warming-the-other-side-now-online-all-five-parts-here/
>>
>> Even I thought this video was a bit high in the sensationalist and
>> propagandist categories, but it did cover many of the standard skeptical
>> viewpoints that I've run into.  It might be worth watching, even if you're
>> completely convinced we're cooking ourselves with carbon dioxide.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
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