[Vision2020] Our Wonderful Latah County Justice System

Tue Dec 28 17:28:57 PST 2010

I did the research, Mr. Hansen.  Mr Hursh has not been convicted of rape. 
He received a WITHHELD JUDGMENT OF CONVICTION.   Can you tell me, because 
obviously I don't know, what a WITHHELD JUDGMENT OF CONVICTION is?
    If you think that a person cannot be punished unless he/she has been 
convicted, you better think again. Better yet, make a run at a seat on the 
Idaho Supreme Court or come to a drug court session and see the punishment 
meted out to people who haven't even been sentenced.
    And, if you are going to use the "Sentences" portion of the MDN, beware. 
And, if you are going to quote the Idaho State Judiciary Website, make sure 
you know what it is you are reading.  The Daily News is wrong.  Wrong - get 
it?  The State Judiciary website is correct, but it does no good if you 
don't know what you are reading.  Sheesh. Chuck Kovis


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
To: "Chuck Kovis" <ckovis at turbonet.com>; "vision 2020" 
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Wonderful Latah County Justice System


> Iposted my sources earlier, Mr Kovis.
>
> The "Sentences" portion of the December 27, 2010 Moscow-Pullman Daily News
>
> The Idaho State Judiciary website
>
> I am NOT going to do your research for you.
>
> I suggest you visit them.
>
> PS - Each source reflected punishment to which Hunter Martin Hursh was
> sentenced for his conviction of rape.
>
> I may not be an attorney.  But I strongly suspect that a defendant CANNOT
> be sentenced to punishment without having first been convicted.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
> On Tue, December 28, 2010 2:47 pm, Chuck Kovis wrote:
>> Tom,  Hunter Martin Hursh has NEVER BEEN CONVICTED OF RAPE.  I am only
>> going
>> by what the repository states.  He received a  WITHHELD JUDGMENT OF
>> CONVICTION in the rape case.  How could he have been convicted of
>> something
>> on April 28, 2009 if the case wasn't even filed until 10/27/2009?  In any
>> case, he HAS NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF RAPE.  Chuck Kovis
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> To: "Chuck Kovis" <ckovis at turbonet.com>; "vision 2020"
>> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Wonderful Latah County Justice System
>>
>>
>>> Wrong, Mr. Kovis.
>>>
>>> Hunter Martin Hursh was convicted of rape on April 28, 2009.  The case
>>> (with its conviction) was disposed on December 20, 2010.
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Courtesy of the Idaho State Judiciary at:
>>>
>>> https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=no&schema=LATAH&county=Latah&partySeq=87230&displayName=Hursh%2C+Hunter+Martin
>>>
>>> State of Idaho vs. Hunter Martin Hursh
>>>
>>> Case:  CR-2009-0005049
>>>
>>> District   Judge:  John R. Stegner
>>>
>>> Amount due:  $300.50
>>> Closed pending clerk action
>>>
>>> Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition:
>>> 04/28/2009  I18-6101 Rape
>>>
>>> Finding: Guilty - Withheld
>>>
>>> Disposition date: 12/20/2010
>>>
>>> Fines/fees: $300.50
>>>
>>> Discretionary: 30 days
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Courtesy of today's (December 27, 2010) Moscow-Pullman Daily News.
>>>
>>> Sentencings
>>>
>>> Monday -- Hunter Marsh Hursh, 21, of Moscow was convicted of rape.  He
>>> was
>>> fined $305 and sentenced to five years of probation and 30 days of
>>> discretionary jail time, and he cannot contact the victim for five
>>> years.
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> OK?
>>>
>>> Tom Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, December 27, 2010 4:46 pm, Chuck Kovis wrote:
>>>> Tom, he WAS NOT convicted of rape.  He was convicted of aiding and
>>>> abetting
>>>> a  burglary, whatever that means.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>>> To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>; "vision 2020"
>>>> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:24 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Wonderful Latah County Justice System
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> For one thing, Sunil, there is NO such thing as consentual sex with a
>>>>> minor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sex with a minor is statutory rape PERIOD!
>>>>>
>>>>> If there were mitigating cicumstances involved, conviction of a lesser
>>>>> offense may have been more appropriate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rush was CONVICTED of rape, NOT statutory rape . . . not a
>>>>> lesser-included
>>>>> offense of sexual assault or simple assault . . . R-A-P-E!
>>>>>
>>>>> To sentence somebody to probation after being convicted of rape is
>>>>> simply
>>>>> WRONG!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.  Hursh has two misdemeanors on his record.
>>>>>
>>>>> Congrats, Rush!  You have graduated to felonious violent crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>> One can only imagine of what his post-graduate "program" consists, let
>>>>> alone his record as a minor.  Don't get me wrong, Sunil.  I am a
>>>>> strong
>>>>> believer (in more ways than one) in expunging a minor's record.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
>>> change
>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>>
>>> - Unknown
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>
> - Unknown
>