[Vision2020] Racism Enshrined in Arizona Law

Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Sat Apr 24 09:12:12 PDT 2010


I'm not Keely, so I hope you don't mind if I throw my two cents in here...

This country was founded upon the backs of legal hard-working 
immigrants.  If it hadn't become the "melting pot" that it did, we'd not 
be a superpower now.  Legal immigration should be encouraged as a public 
policy.  It should be part of what makes up our national identity.  It 
once was.

Most of the workers I've heard about or come across are hard-working 
people trying to send money home to impoverished families.  They 
wouldn't be sneaking across the border if there wasn't a problem getting 
legal status as an immigrant, so the roadblocks that are stopping them 
from doing so should be reviewed and eliminated.  We want to encourage 
hard-working people to come to the US legally.

There should be stiff fines, maybe even ludicrous fines for hiring an 
illegal immigrant under the table for a small fraction of minimum wage.  
We shouldn't be looking at the immigrant as a criminal trying to 
undermine our system, we should look at them as someone who is desperate 
that is taking advantage of an unethical practice by an employer, and 
being taken advantage of in turn.  The immigrant should  go through a 
review when caught, and maybe even be helped along the way towards a 
legal immigration status.  For the employer it was a financial decision, 
so they should be punished financially.  I suggest really big fines and 
back payment of the employer costs for the illegal immigrant that they 
were trying to get around paying.  Maybe even make them pay the employee 
costs that should have been paid as well, based on minimum wage.

Realistically, though, it won't happen until we as a country decide that 
legal immigration is a status that should be valued highly instead of 
what we are now doing which is holding illegal immigration to be a 
status that should be demonized.

Just my opinion.

Paul

Wayne Price wrote:
> Keely,
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> While I agree that this has opened a whole can of worms as far as 
> profiling, DWM, etc, etc,  What can or should be done about ILLEGAL 
> immigrants?
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> There is a process, for better or worse that allows folks that are not 
> US citizens access to the US and to jobs in the US. From what I 
> understand, the AZ law isn't going after
> those folks at all. It is focused on the illegal immigrants.
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> Solutions?
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> On Apr 23, 2010, at 3:26 PM, keely emerinemix wrote:
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>> Arizona Governor Signs a Controversial Immigration Bill
>> > 
>> > Gov. Jan Brewer of Arizona signed a bill that would require
>> > the police to ask people about their immigration status if
>> > officers have any reason to suspect that they are in the
>> > country illegally.  (NY Times, April 23, 2010)
>>
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>> This is shameful.
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>> "Any reason to suspect" that someone is in the country illegally 
>> means simply that "anyone who looks Mexican" could have their race, 
>> language, ethnicity, customs become probable cause for questioning.  
>> The idea of "driving while Mexican" used to be a wry, sick joke.  
>> Now, it's a cornerstone for "law and order," and it reeks.
>>
>> I hope our local "Libertarians" and freedom lovers join me in 
>> condemning this bill with all vehemence.  Because if not, the silence 
>> from their keyboards, fieldhouses, and offices would be deafening, 
>> given the incessant braying recently about the State's denial of 
>> rights, pronounced threats to liberty, and an alarming erosion of 
>> Constitutional and family values.
>>
>> Keely
>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com <http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com>
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>> Keely
>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com <http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com>
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