[Vision2020] Raise Our Taxes

Saundra Lund v2020 at ssl.fastmail.fm
Fri Apr 23 11:53:41 PDT 2010


I dunno, Tom, but perhaps at least one of them would have some ethics and
not be a liar . . . I'd be willing to pay *more* for that!

I don't know about all three of those named, but I know for a fact that one
has absolutely no qualms about telling lies when he thinks he can get away
with it.  And for that he's very handsomely compensated with very little in
the way of job qualifications -- it was one of Tim White's last F-yous to
the UI.  No wonder this country has gone to heck in a hand basket -- we've
become a society where we think paying big bucks buys top quality when
that's just not the case, as we've seen at the UI time & time again.  When
will we learn???

I just don't get why people think we should continue to handsomely reward
dishonest & unethical university administrators . . . .



Saundra Lund
Moscow, ID

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.
~ Edmund Burke

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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:34 AM
To: Mo Hendrickson
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Raise Our Taxes

Very well stated, Mo.

Instead of throwing rocks only to retreat and crawl back under one, how
about some constructive support?

Do you really think, Roger (?), that those hired to replace Baker, Mues,
and Daly-Laursen would be willing to accept those duties at a rate less
than their current positions?

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
UI '96

"The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
and the Realist adjusts his sails."

- Unknown

>
> "This is provided that they first cut out the fat at the top. At the UI
> that means Baker, Mues and Daly-Laursen. "
>
> So Roger, you would cut these three people. SO you get rid of them, do you
> think the university could function without a VP of Finance and a Provost?
>  Do you know what the expense is for running executive searches? Two of
> the three positions would be refilled, probably at a higher salary line,
> due to market salary increases.  Yes I think that administrators make a
> lot more than anyone should get paid, but at the same time that is the way
> the system is set up.  It is not unique to UI.   So your idea to save
> money would probably end up costing the university MORE money.
>
> I know that you have ties to the College of Ag, and yes they are in a
> particularly tough place financially.  But the whole of the UI is hurting.
> Your ideas seem to have a trend towards take from somewhere else and fix
> Ag, well when you take from somewhere that has nothing you end up hurting
> that department or college. Offices across campus are one deep, everyone
> is doing more and not getting paid for the extra duties.  It is time to be
> creative about how to raise monies, to recruit students, and create a
> sustainable working environment. That will not happen if we are all so
> focused on our own special interest.
>
> I think there are some folks on this list with such animosity towards UI
> that they refuse to see any good and only find the negative.  From where I
> sit, there are wonderful, fabulous, and amazing things happening at this
> university at ALL levels top to bottom, that some folks just don't see.
> Yes money is tight and things suck in a lot of departments and colleges,
> try and find some positive in all of this.  Living in the negative is a
> miserable way to live. But hey that's your choice.
>
> -Mo

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