[Vision2020] Richard Dawkins calls for arrest of PopeBenedictXVI
the lockshop
lockshop at pull.twcbc.com
Wed Apr 14 14:40:22 PDT 2010
I am well aware of the "repeat the lie loud and often till it becomes truth" tactic but, when it comes to "our own local cult" (as you so impartially and fairly deem it) and child molestation, prompt action was the order of the day. According to the media reports I read, action was swift and local authorities had zero complaint with regard to the steps taken by Kirk leaders to bring the matter to law enforcements attention.
I know it's far more enjoyable for you and a small but shrill group of naysayers and dilettantes to pretend otherwise but that just doesn't make it so.
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From: Art Deco
To: Vision 2020
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Richard Dawkins calls for arrest of PopeBenedictXVI
It is not only the Catholic Church which shields and enables child molesters, but many other churches, including the LDS*, and of course, our own local cult.
Whenever any evidence of child molestation is reported to anyone, including church officials of any kind, such evidence ought, if not by law, then by conscience, be reported to competent, trustworthy law enforcement. If it is not, then those failing to report, including the Pope, should face obstruction of justice/etc charges. And these charges should be prosecuted with the relentless rigor that the child abuse charges are.
Good luck with this proscription, however, and especially in Latah County.
And aren't the alleged agents (international, national, local) of some alleged god wonderful, concealing, downplaying, making excuses for one of humankinds darkest, cruelest, most cowardly crimes, the rape and use of defenseless children.
Wayne A. Fox
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*One example, Google for may more:
Jury holds Boy Scouts negligent in sex-abuse case
By Tom Watkins, CNN
Boy Scouts lose $1.4M in abuse case
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
a.. How Scouts handled case of former Scout leader Timur Dykes at center of lawsuit
b.. Jurors in Portland award former Scout who had contact with Dykes $1.4 million
c.. On Tuesday, trial's second phase to determine punitive damages in 1980s
d.. Spokesman: Scouts have taken extensive steps to keep abusers out in recent years
RELATED TOPICS
a.. Boy Scouts of America
b.. Sexual Offenses
c.. Oregon
(CNN) -- Jurors in Portland, Oregon, awarded a former Boy Scout $1.4 million after finding Tuesday that the organization was negligent in allowing a Scout leader who was a sex offender to have contact with him.
The three-week trial ended with Multnomah County Circuit Court Judge John A. Wittmayer polling the jurors, who confirmed they had found the negligence contributed to damage to the plaintiff as claimed.
The jury ruled that the plaintiff is also entitled to punitive damages. That's to be determined beginning Tuesday in the trial's second phase.
How the Scouts handled the case of the former Scout leader, Timur Dykes, was at the center of the explosive lawsuit.
Attorney Kelly Clark, who has been representing six men suing the Scouts, would not discuss the case until after the punitive phase. Before the trial, he alleged that when his clients were boys during the 1980s, the organization knew that at least one of them had been abused by Dykes.
He also alleged that though Dykes was removed as a Scout leader, he was allowed to stay on as a volunteer and the abuse continued. CNN was not able to reach Dykes.
Clark produced documents that he said were part of an archive of previously secret Boy Scout files that chronicled decades of abuse of boys.
The Scouts' lawyers said the organization had not known about Dykes' record nor had it known about an outstanding warrant at the time.
Once the Scouts did learn about it, the organization acted immediately and cooperated with police, the Scouts' lawyers said.
A Boy Scouts spokesman has acknowledged the organization does have confidential files, but said they are made confidential in order to protect people who are ineligible to be Scout leaders but who may not have done anything illegal.
A Scouts spokesman said that, in recent years, the organization has taken extensive measures to keep abusers out.
In a written statement, the Scouts said the organization intends to appeal.
"We are gravely disappointed with the verdict," it said. "We believe that the allegations made against our youth protection efforts are not valid."
It added, "We are saddened by what happened to the plaintiff. The actions of the man who committed these crimes do not represent the values and ideals of the Boy Scouts of America.
"The safety of the young people currently in the Scouting program has never been in question during these legal proceedings. The case focused on a discussion about what society and the BSA knew about child abuse approximately three decades ago.
"This is a long-standing societal issue that every youth-serving organization must address. Based on the standard of care of that time, the BSA believes it acted responsibly and that the evidence presented during the trial does not justify the verdict."
While holding the Boy Scouts of America 60 percent negligent, the jury said the Cascade Pacific Council -- which oversees Scouting activities in the region -- was 15 percent negligent and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints 25 percent negligent.
The church has sponsored a number of Boy Scout troops, including the one to which the plaintiff belonged.
Steve English, a lawyer representing the church, said Tuesday's verdict has no impact on the church, since it settled the case out of court more than a year ago.
"The church absolutely condemns any kind of child abuse," he said. "Because of the way the law is set up in Oregon, we thought it made sense both to help the victim and also to get this behind the victim and us to settle this case."
CNN's Brian Todd contributed to this story.
----- Original Message -----
From: Garrett Clevenger
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Richard Dawkins calls for arrest of Pope BenedictXVI
"Hitchens, author of God Is Not Great, said: �This man is not above or
outside the law. The institutionalised concealment of child rape is a
crime under any law and demands not private ceremonies of repentance
or church-funded payoffs, but justice and punishment.""
You would think that someone who claims to speak for God would have a clue as to who is raping children.
It just goes to show that the church doesn't speak for God.
They are just as clueless as most people arrogant enough to say they know what God thinks or wants.
They all should be arrested, if not locked up behind bars, before any more damage is done...
Garrett
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