[Vision2020] Oklahoma Lawmakers Envision a State Militia
Art Deco
deco at moscow.com
Tue Apr 13 18:59:04 PDT 2010
Stankiewicz defends local militia
Posted: Thursday, Apr 08, 2010 - 03:25:16 pm CDT
By JULIE GOLDER
Staff writer, Bonners Ferry Herald
BONNERS FERRY - Every able-bodied Idaho male 18 through 45-years old, already belongs to the militia, according to Jeff Stankiewicz.
That is outlined in the Idaho Constitution, said Stankiewicz, major of the 21st Battalion of North Idaho's Lightfoot Militia.
A member of the Constitution party, Stankiewicz is challenging incumbent assessor Dave Ryals in the Nov. 2 general election. Ryals is running on the Republican ticket.
It is not, however, Stankiewicz's political campaign that is drawing the most attention. It is his membership in the militia - especially after a similar group in Indiana were arrested last month for allegedly plotting violence against the government.
Stankiewicz and other members of the 21st Battalion were recently interviewed on ABC's "Nightline" about militias in general and more specifically about Idaho's Lightfoot Militia.
A certified welder, Stankiewicz, 41, was born and raised in Connecticut. He worked for a local steel manufacturing company for five years until he was recently laid off until new contracts come in.
His interest in the militia was sparked when he joined the John Birch Society 15 years ago after moving to North Idaho. Stankiewicz said society members taught him about the U.S. Constitution - something he was never taught in school.
After waiting for 10 years, he decided it would be better to start the group that to wait any longer.
"I waited for someone to come along and start it; I thought maybe someone ex-military would step up," Stankiewicz said. "It never happened, then the Tea Party movement started and people were waking up to things I have known for over 15 years. I thought, 'Now is the time.' "
While the state constitution does address the creation of a militia, it also gives the authority for enrollment, equipment and discipline to the Legislature. All militia officers must be commissioned by the governor and the length of their commission set by the Legislature.
Stankiewicz holds no such commission, and no legislative sanction has been granted the 21st Lightfoot Battalion.
While ABC News reported that 12 members showed up for last week's interview, Stankiewicz said 24 people actually were present. In total, the group has somewhere between 100 to 200 members, he added.
"There are members who don't want to say their names, they don't want to give up their security," Stankiewicz said. "A lot of it is about not showing our strengths and that is why some people did not want to be on camera."
The battalion is preparing for an economic collapse. Members want to be on the front lines to ensure safety and provide medical attention in the wake of the ensuing chaos that would likely come from the dollar falling in a tailspin, Stankiewicz said.
"We don't want this to happen, we hope it doesn't happen, but we want to be prepared for it if it does," Stankiewicz said.
Much of the group's monthly training centers around just that.
"We are not worried about conspiracy theory, but being this far into debt as a nation can lead to disorder," Stankiewicz said. "When the truck stops delivering food and people's federal checks stop coming there could be rioting in cities, that is why I am glad I live here."
Stankiewicz said the group uses military manuals and follows basic military training, including first aid and survival.
Despite the negative connotation presented by the show, Stankiewicz said the 21st Lightfoot Battalion is in Boundary County to provide whatever assistance they are asked to provide.
"I use the examples if there is a flood and volunteers were needed to sand bag, we would be there," he said.
As an example, Stankiewicz cited the call for volunteers by local law enforcement in the event of an emergency.
It would be better, he added, for them to call upon a group already trained, organized and ready.
Boundary County has the lowest turnout of participants in the regional Lightfoot militia units. Stankiewicz believes it is because potential members are afraid of the strong stand taken by the county's sheriff's office and county commissioners against the group.
Stankiewicz said they are loyal citizens and most of the militia's members obtain concealed weapons permits to show they are upstanding citizens.
The 21st Lightfoot Battalion believes that if there is a breakdown in civil order they will be needed to protect neighborhoods. Stankiewicz said they will offer assistance to the Sheriff and other local law enforcement agencies to stand guard where needed.
"Again, I hope we are never necessary," he said. "I want to die an old man with some really nice hunting and camping gear."
A person of faith like many in the group, Stankiewicz said the 21st Lightfoot Battalion is not preparing for the end times - which is the proclaimed mission of the Hutaree militia in Indiana, where a group of eight members are currently in jail on charges of trying to overthrow the government.
While the groups are linked on each other's Web sites - something which critics say show the commonality of their beliefs - Stankiewicz said that isn't the case.
"We are linked to other Militia groups but we are not part of their belief system or group," said Stankiewicz said. "We basically wanted to link up with others so when someone used the search engine we would come up more often."
While taken aback by what he says is the negative spin put on the group by "Nightline" crews, Stankiewicz doesn't regret talking to the media.
Stankiewicz said he knew there was a possibility of negative coverage from the outset but that if he didn't do the interview they would have still run the story.
"The press is not the enemy, we could have chosen not to talk to them and then I guarantee it would be bad," said Stankiewicz.
The real enemy are those who don't follow the Constitution, Stankiewicz said.
"One of the funny things is at the beginning of the piece on ABC, they said, 'They are not police officers and they are not active duty military, but in reality we are ex-cops, ex-military, ex-EMT and firemen."
Stankiewicz said he has never had political aspirations but was asked by Donna and Terry Capurso at a meeting of the Boundary County Property Association if he would run for assessor.
"I thought we needed new blood in that seat and he came back to us after the meeting and said he would run," said Donna Capurso, who is challenging Walt Kirby for his county commissioner seat in May.
Stankiewicz is hoping his election would allow him to give back to the community - especially since the group's offers to help the county have fallen on deaf ears.
"I have tried to offer help by way of sheriffs office, search and rescue, I ran a food drive for community action partnership, trying to help this community," he said. "This is one way I can help by myself since the Militia is not taking well in Boundary County."
Stankiewicz said he is not worried about a troubled past or the fact that he owes $1,460 on his property taxes dating back to 2007.
According to the Boundary County treasurer's office, Stankiewicz started making payments to his delinquent property taxes tax account in October.
Stankiewicz blamed his financial problems on being laid off and on high medical bills stemming from an accident in which he was charged with inattentive driving.
"I had a big hospital bill that I was not able to pay and did not have insurance," he said.
"The hospital got a judgment to garnish 25 percent of my wages, which was a huge chunk of my paycheck. I paid as much as I could when I could to the treasurer."
It wasn't the first time Stankiewicz has run into legal trouble. In 2002, he was accused of stabbing another man and charged with felony aggravated battery after a bar fight with two men over a woman. All four had been drinking and, while there were witnesses to the fight, no one saw the actual stabbing.
Stankiewicz denies the stabbing but admits to defending himself when he was jumped in the bar that night. The charge was amended to simple battery, a misdemeanor, to which Stankiewicz pled guilty.
Stankiewicz said he agreed to the offered plea bargain because he was taking care of his then-girlfriend, who was disabled.
"I had a public defender and I was with a disabled woman at the time," said Stankiewicz. "I was scared and told by the prosecutor he would put me away for 5 years. I decided to take the plea for the sake of the woman I was caring for."
He served 12 days in jail, spent two years on probation and was ordered to pay Taft restitution in the amount of $15,098. A garnishment of wages against Stankiewicz was later issued for lack of payment to Taft.
What happened in his past doesn't change Donna Capurso's support for him as a candidate for local office.
"I try to respect everyone I meet for who they are when I meet them," she said. "I think Jeff is trying to stand up and do the right thing. He is an intelligent young man and I give him my respect regardless of what happened eight years ago."
Stankiewicz wants to dispel any misconceptions about his 21st Lightfoot Battalion. He does not condone anti-government talk or actions. Instead, he said the group is pro-Constitution and denies that race or religion are a factor in any Idaho militia group.
"We are not racist," he said. "There are a lot of people in the militia that are not white. Some militia are private and only accept certain members, but here in Idaho we are in line with the Idaho Constitution which states we are supposed to have a militia."
In fact, according to Stankiewicz, ABC left out a comment made by a member when he was asked what he thought about having a black president.
"I think it shows how far our country has come," Stankiewicz quoted militia member "Mike" as saying. Stankiewicz did not want to give a last name.
Stankiewicz said they don't care what color Obama is.
"He could be sian, White or Hispanic," he said. "His color doesn't matter, but he is a socialist. I think that his policies and ideas are based on socialist principals. Progressive or liberal whatever they want to call it, the policies and ideas come from socialist principals."
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Hansen
To: Moscow Vision 2020
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 5:26 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Oklahoma Lawmakers Envision a State Militia
Courtesy of NPR at:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125872473
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Okla. Tea Parties And Lawmakers Envision Militia
by The Associated Press
Frustrated by recent political setbacks, tea party leaders and some
conservative members of the Oklahoma Legislature say they would like to
create a new volunteer militia to help defend against what they believe
are improper federal infringements on state sovereignty.
Tea party movement leaders say they've discussed the idea with several
supportive lawmakers and hope to get legislation next year to recognize a
new volunteer force. They say the unit would not resemble militia groups
that have been raided for allegedly plotting attacks on law enforcement
officers.
"Is it scary? It sure is," said tea party leader Al Gebhart of Oklahoma
City, who heads an umbrella group of tea party factions called the
Oklahoma Constitutional Alliance. "But when do the states stop rolling
over for the federal government?"
Thus far, the discussions have been exploratory. Even the proponents say
they don't know how an armed force would be organized nor how a
state-based militia could block federal mandates. Critics also asserted
that the force could inflame extremism, and that the National Guard
already provides for the state's military needs.
"Have they heard of the Oklahoma City bombing?" said Joseph Thai, a
constitutional law professor at the University of Oklahoma. The state
observes the 15th anniversary of the anti-government attack on Monday.
Such actions could "throw fuel in the fire of radicals," he said.
But the militia talks reflect the frustration of some grass roots groups
seeking new ways of fighting recent federal initiatives, such as the
health reform plan, which requires all citizens to have health insurance.
Over the last year, tea party groups across the country have staged
rallies and pressured politicians to protest big government and demand
reduced public spending.
In strongly conservative states like Oklahoma, some legislators have also
discussed further action to fight federal policies, such as state
legislation and lawsuits.
State Sen. Randy Brogdon, R-Guthrie, a Republican candidate for governor
who has appealed for tea party support, said supporters of a state militia
have talked to him, and that he believes the citizen unit would be
authorized under the Second Amendment to the Constitution.
The founding fathers "were not referring to a turkey shoot or a quail
hunt. They really weren't even talking about us having the ability to
protect ourselves against each other," Brogdon said. "The Second Amendment
deals directly with the right of an individual to keep and bear arms to
protect themselves from an overreaching federal government."
Another lawmaker, state Rep. Charles Key, R-Oklahoma City, said he
believes there's a good chance of introducing legislation for a
state-authorized militia next year.
Tea party leader J-W Berry of the Tulsa-based OKforTea began soliciting
interest in a state militia through his newsletter under the subject "Buy
more guns, more bullets."
"It's not a far-right crazy plan or anything like that," Berry said. "This
would be done with the full cooperation of the state Legislature."
State militias clearly are constitutionally authorized, but have not been
used in recent times, said Glenn Reynolds, a law professor at the
University of Tennessee and an expert on the Second Amendment. "Whether
someone should get a militia to go toe-to-toe with the federal government
... now, that strikes me as kind of silly," he said.
Some conservative legislators in Oklahoma say talk of a militia, which
would be privately recruited, armed and trained, goes too far.
"If the intent is to create a militia for disaster relief, we have the
National Guard," said Sen. Steve Russell, R-Oklahoma City, a retired Army
lieutenant colonel. "Anything beyond that purpose should be viewed with
great concern and caution."
Democratic Gov. Brad Henry's communications director Paul Sund also
discounted the militia discussion, saying the National Guard handles state
emergencies and security.
Federal authorities say that radical militia groups have not emerged in
Oklahoma, unlike many other states, in part because of the legacy of the
Oklahoma City bombing. On April 19, 1995, an anti-government conspiracy
led by Army veteran Tim McVeigh exploded a truckbomb outside the Alfred P.
Murrah Federal Building, killing 168 people.
Last month, FBI agents conducted a raid on the Hutaree militia group in
southern Michigan and accused members of plotting to kill law enforcement
officers.
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Al Gebhart, co-founder of the Sooner Tea Party and founder of Oklahoma
Constitutional Alliance, is shown in the showroom of his business, The
Carpenter Shop, Monday, April 12, 2010, in Oklahoma City.
http://tinyurl.com/Al-Gebhart
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Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
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