[Vision2020] Say What?
the lockshop
lockshop at pull.twcbc.com
Thu Apr 8 16:56:21 PDT 2010
Come on Roger, face up to the fact that to the lefty's, everything that's
good and proper in the world is theirs and conservatives are the owners of
all things evil.
Sunshine
rainbows
tolerence (please ignore Robert Byrd and the KKK)
unicorns
fresh air
candy canes
All left wing inventions. Conversely,
Toxic waste
hurricanes
earthquakes
darkness
disease
big ickey bugs
All ours I'm afraid.
g
----- Original Message -----
From: "Saundra Lund" <v2020 at ssl.fastmail.fm>
To: "'lfalen'" <lfalen at turbonet.com>; "'Tom Hansen'" <thansen at moscow.com>;
"'Garrett Clevenger'" <garrettmc at verizon.net>
Cc: "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> Roger,
>
> As I said, ***read the primary source material*** referenced in the
> bibliography -- I have. I'm not asking you to accept Wikipedia's word for
> it but rather the expert words of the experts cited.
>
> Again, the definitions you keep repeating ABSOLUTELY DO NOT support your
> assertion that Nazism is on the left. The reality is that it is generally
> accepted by expert scholars that Nazism is on the ***far*** right. If you
> want to argue that, have at it, but you're going to have to have an
> approach other than sticking your fingers in your ears and repeatedly
> announcing, "BECAUSE I SAID SO!!!"
>
> My political science husband has suggested trying this un-academic
> approach with you since reason is failing to make it through your
> misunderstanding. Question: why, Roger, do you suppose around the world
> it's FAR RIGHT POLITICIANS -- and not leftist ones -- who have to
> denounce Nazism and any connection to Nazism???
>
> Answer: IT'S BECAUES NAZISM IS ON THE FAR RIGHT!!!!
>
> Sheesh!
>
>
>
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> ~ Edmund Burke
>
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> plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce
> outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of
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>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lfalen [mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:37 PM
> To: Saundra Lund; 'Tom Hansen'; 'Garrett Clevenger'
> Cc: 'Moscow Vision 2020'
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Say What?
>
> Saundra
> Wikipedia is notorious for being inaccurate. Anyone can post to it. Try
> Merriam-Webster. My source is Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary,
> copyright 1997, page 767. Nazism- The body and economic doctrines held
> and put into effect by the National Socialist German Workers Party in the
> Third Reich including the totalitarian principle of government, state
> control of all industry, predominance of groups assumed to be racially
> superior, and or the supremacy of the fuhrer.
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: "Saundra Lund" v2020 at ssl.fastmail.fm
> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:46:09 -0700
> To: "'lfalen'" lfalen at turbonet.com, "'Tom Hansen'" thansen at moscow.com,
> "'Garrett Clevenger'" garrettmc at verizon.net
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Say What?
>
>> Hi Roger,
>>
>> First, we're enjoying the pheasants, too -- I'm thinking their temporary
>> disappearance was the effect of a brutal winter and wet spring with their
>> associated high rates of mortality. I'm glad you're enjoying the
>> pheasants
>> and quail as much as we are!
>>
>> Second, I give up on you. No one is arguing with the Merriam-Webster
>> definitions but rather with your extrapolations from those definitions --
>> that's where you are dead wrong. Period.
>>
>> "Nazism (Nationalsozialismus, National Socialism) was the ideology and
>> practice of the Nazi Party and of Nazi Germany.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]
>> It
>> was a unique variety of fascism that involved biological racism and
>> anti-Semitism.[9] Nazism presented itself as politically syncretic,
>> incorporating policies, tactics and philosophies from right- and
>> left-wing
>> ideologies; in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics.[10]."
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
>>
>> Read the primary source materials provided in the bibliography, and then
>> let
>> us know you Get It. Or at least provide an intelligent rebuttal of the
>> position of the credible scholars that Nazism is ***far*** right rather
>> than
>> just repeating your personal and erroneous opinion.
>>
>>
>>
>> Saundra Lund
>> Moscow, ID
>>
>> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
>> nothing.
>> ~ Edmund Burke
>>
>> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2010 through life
>> plus
>> 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce
>> outside
>> the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the
>> author.*****
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>> On Behalf Of lfalen
>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:35 AM
>> To: Tom Hansen; Garrett Clevenger
>> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
>>
>> I give up on you guys. These were not my definitions that I sent Wayne
>> Price, they are from Merriam-Webster. If you do not believe me, check
>> your
>> dictionary. If you want to rewrite the dictionary, maybe you should go
>> join
>> the Flat Earth Society.
>> As for being on the left. The left wing in the 20's embraced both Hitler
>> and
>> Mussolini up untill the World War II started. They also originated
>> Eugenics.
>> Hitler picked it from them. Both Margaret Sanger and Oliver Wendell Homes
>> supported Eugenics. If you want verification Tom, look it up on Google.
>> It
>> is easy to find.
>> Roger
>>
>> Note to Saundra- In a post of yours a couple of years ago, you asked
>> where
>> have all the pheasants gone. They are back in my yard and pasture. I
>> enjoy
>> watching them and the quail.
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: "Tom Hansen" thansen at moscow.com
>> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:17:46 -0700
>> To: "Garrett Clevenger" garrettmc at verizon.net
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
>>
>> > Exactly.
>> >
>> > What was your first clue, Roger, that the Nazis were/are far left?
>> >
>> > Their systematic execution of homosexuals?
>> >
>> > The elimination of individual rights?
>> >
>> > Or simply their attempt to destroy democracy?
>> >
>> > Tom Hansen
>> > Moscow, Idaho
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Roger writes:
>> > >
>> > > "It is convenient for the left to place them on the right. this makes
>> > > it
>> > > easier for them to demonise the right and marginalize them by
>> > > association."
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Er, isn't this what Roger just did by saying "The Nazis are on the
>> left."?
>> > >
>> > > I'll continue his quote to make his nazi one more realisitic.
>> > >
>> > > "They ... may want freedom for themselves, but not for others. This
>> does
>> > > not place them on the {left}, who wants freedom for everyone. {nazis}
>> > > basically are kooks and cannot be categorized as being left or
>> > > right."
>> > >
>> > > So Roger is part right, even if he is or isn't "on the right."
>> > >
>> > > Garrett
>> > >
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>> > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
>> > change
>> > and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>> >
>> > - Unknown
>> >
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