[Vision2020] Say What?

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Thu Apr 8 11:56:50 PDT 2010


Paul is right. There is a lot of cross over. A lot of those on the left are liberal to some extent. They support the freedom of the individual to be gay or lesbian, and support homosexual marriage. The Libertarians on the right, believe the individual should be free to do what they want, whether they agree with it or not. Drug policy cuts across both sides. There are those on both sides that favor and disapprove of the legalization of marijuana. There are those that are pro-life and pro-choice on both sides. The basic structure of the difference is that tle left favors big government solutions to problems. The right believes in solving problems by primarily using free market solutions, with only a minimum of regulations. They support individual freedom with in the bounds of doing no harm to others.

Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:33:27 -0700
To: Garrett Clevenger garrettmc at verizon.net,  Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?

> I think it's becoming clear that not all political perspectives can be shoehorned into one of two boxes ("left" or "right").
> 
> Unfortunately, if you follow this to it's logical conclusion, it means that some people in one box might find they actually agree with people in the other box on some issues.  Crazy, I know.
> 
> Paul
> 
> --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> > To: "Garrett Clevenger" <garrettmc at verizon.net>
> > Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 1:17 PM
> > Exactly.
> > 
> > What was your first clue, Roger, that the Nazis were/are
> > far left?
> > 
> > Their systematic execution of homosexuals?
> > 
> > The elimination of individual rights?
> > 
> > Or simply their attempt to destroy democracy?
> > 
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> > 
> > >
> > > Roger writes:
> > >
> > > "It is convenient for the left to place them on the
> > right. this makes it
> > > easier for them to demonise the right and marginalize
> > them by
> > > association."
> > >
> > >
> > > Er, isn't this what Roger just did by saying "The
> > Nazis are on the left."?
> > >
> > > I'll continue his quote to make his nazi one more
> > realisitic.
> > >
> > > "They ...  may want freedom for themselves, but
> > not for others. This does
> > > not place them on the {left}, who wants freedom for
> > everyone. {nazis}
> > > basically are kooks and cannot be categorized as being
> > left or right."
> > >
> > > So Roger is part right, even if he is or isn't "on the
> > right."
> > >
> > > Garrett
> > >
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