[Vision2020] Say What?

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Mr. Campbell=2C

Roy Blunt is being accused of being a racist for telling the exact same mon=
key joke that he was telling YEARS before Obama came to the White House. Hi=
s joke only became about African-Americans when some very pathetic race-bai=
ters inferred that connection entirely on their own.

Pardon my French=2C but the only thing to say of such people is=2C TO HELL =
WITH 'EM. I'm not going to waste one second of my time worrying about the f=
eelings of people whose bigoted minds work like that. Perhaps the supreme e=
xample of such a mindset=2C at least among people in the public spotlight=
=2C is Michael Eric Dyson=2C whose Ph.D. is obviously in race-baiting and o=
f whom it should be said (if the same standards are to be applied equally t=
o all people) that he is to racism what Fred Phelps is to gay-hating. Dyson=
 was happy to go on national television and "unpack the full meaning" of Jo=
e Wilson's two-word outburst during Obama's speech before Congress as follo=
ws: "[I heard 'You lie boy!'] and a lot more. 'You uppity "n"!' and so fort=
h."

Come on. That sort of talk tells us far more about Michael Eric Dyson than =
it does about Joe Wilson. People like Dyson are legion. They are part of th=
e problem=2C not part of the solution=2C and incidents like the above=2C ea=
ch of them rife through-and-through with hypocritical double standards=2C a=
re too many to count. You should read Dyson's book "Why I Love Black Women"=
 where he rails against inter-racial dating=3B if a white guy was to go int=
o print with something like that he would be permanent persona non grata on=
 every television network and yet nobody bats an eyelash when a black guy d=
oes it. I'm not trying to make a point about inter-racial dating=3B I'm try=
ing to make a point about hypocritical double standards.

Mr. Campbell=2C don't sit there on your high horse and talk down to me with=
 vacuous platitudes about the history of racism in America without facing u=
p to the fact that among the biggest race-related problems America faces to=
day is race-baiting and the never-ending fabrication of victims. We have a =
complete industry of professional guilt-manipulators.

TO HELL WITH 'EM.

Oh=2C and Mr. Campbell? If you=2C O mighty "philosopher=2C" can only get th=
e rusty machinery of your mind to produce bigoted=2C illogical=2C self-serv=
ing crap like "You want liberals to be offensive=2C for in your sick little=
 mind they only justify your own insults=2C" you have my unmitigated pity. =
Like I said in my last post=2C if that represents your "integrity=2C" pleas=
e=2C go ahead and assume whatever you want and say whatever you want about =
me. I really don't care.

Yes=2C I take it as self-evident that racism is a problem in America today=
=2C because at the very least every last race-baiter qualifies as a racist =
of the first order. That is not the entirety of America's race problems=2C =
but it occupies a big chunk of the territory. It's hardly a phenomenon limi=
ted to race-related problems=2C but many American special-interest groups o=
stensibly dedicated to the eradication of various problems in reality do NO=
T want to see the problems eradicated=2C because the eradication of their p=
et problem would mean the eradication of their source of income! Indeed=2C =
they often seem to be working overtime to stimulate and produce more of the=
 problem=2C or at least a grossly magnified perception of the problem. The =
SPLC is a prime example of this sort of mischief. They constantly bang thei=
r alarmist drum=2C working their donor base into a frenzy with letters that=
 seriously distort the truth=2C viz:
http://www.vdare.com/misc/090928_tancredo.htm=20
One does not need to be a fan of Tancredo to recognize that the SPLC twiste=
d his words to make it sound like he was saying something that he did NOT s=
ay.

God hates liars=2C and so do I. And if people care so little for the truth =
that they are willing to say or believe anything about someone they have ta=
ken a disliking to=2C just to smear them=2C then TO HELL WITH 'EM.

". . . all liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire =
and brimstone: which is the second death." -- Revelation 21:8

Nous Tweaker
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Can you handle the truth?
http://noustweaker.blogspot.com/

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> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: noustweaker at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> Date: Mon=2C 28 Sep 2009 20:23:43 -0700
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>
> Nous=2C
>
> I don't think you'll get very far with the "I'm not a racist" theme if
> you can't see that jokes about African-Americans being monkeys are not
> funny. Suppose a joke began with the following. "Darwin was walking
> with some monkeys -- and by the way=2C all the monkeys were
> Christians ..." I'm sure you'd be offended. And rightfully so. And
> we're not even mentioning why it might be even more offensive to
> blacks=2C given the history of racism in America. So I don't think you
> are going to convince many people that you're not a racist by
> defending those monkey jokes. To anyone but your white friends (and
> maybe your wife)=2C those jokes are clearly racist. That you defend them
> only shows that you are either racist or clueless. If I give you the
> benefit of the doubt=2C I'll have to suppose you're an idiot.
>
> And it won't help if you say that anti-Christian jokes don't bother
> you. Of course they don't. You want liberals to be offensive=2C for in
> your sick little mind they only justify your own insults. But of
> course that's just the fallacy of two wrongs make a right. Nothing
> justifies your insults.
>
> Give it up. If you're not a racist=2C you might as well be since you
> certainly look like one. Go up to Spokane and run around telling those
> jokes and we'll see how far you get. Let's test your confidence.
>
> Wwjd? He'd tell black monkey jokes!?! Holy crap!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 28=2C 2009=2C at 3:20 PM=2C Nous Tweaker
> wrote:
>
>>
>> (Re-sending=2C hopefully more legible this time)
>>
>> ACS wrote:
>>
>> [[ Not surprising that you're agreeing with this antisemitic
>> diatribe=2C considering that you believe that Jews are the enemy of
>> God and that the Nazis got a bad rap. ]]
>>
>> Mr. Schou=2C
>>
>> Speaking for myself=2C I want to try to criticize other people on the
>> basis of positions that they actually hold=2C rather than attacking
>> straw men. I do not want to violate the ninth commandment when I
>> criticize other people. I
>> don't doubt that I have fallen short of the mark in that department
>> on occasion=2C but at any rate that is how I try to approach people I
>> disagree with. If you are only interested in insulting and
>> slandering people you dislike=2C then please feel free to ignore the
>> rest of this post=3B go ahead and assume whatever you like=2C putting
>> words into my mouth=2C misconstruing my statements and my motives=2C
>> etc. However=2C if that's not the case -- if you want to actually
>> understand where your opponent is coming from -- then please read on.
>>
>> 1. I acknowledge that in today's world=2C charges of racism (whatever
>> that might mean) or sexism (whatever that might mean) or even anti-
>> Semitism whatever that might mean) can be hard to refute because
>> subjective feelings of offense held by an offended party virtually
>> constitute proof of the objectively offensive nature of the
>> behavior. The following link provides one recent example=2C although
>> many more could be cited.
>> http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2009/09/where-reason-neve=
r-sleeps-.html
>>
>> 2. Apparently the fact that I read and post at a Kinist blog is
>> taken as evidence that I am a racist=2C even though I explicitly
>> reject Kinism. According to that sort of logic it would make just as
>> much sense to lump me together with Keely Emerine-Mix. For the
>> record=2C I visit that site primarily to ask questions and try to
>> understand their whole system=2C without embracing it. Let me add that
>> although I strongly disagree with much of what they say=2C they also
>> not infrequently make some very good points. In my opinion=2C the sort
>> of treatment that David Thompson was subjected to by EGC (the
>> example in 1. above) is simply crazy. The Kinists can provide a
>> seemingly endless list of examples of such Kafkaesque situations
>> relating to race in America today. If the Kinists are wrong on race-
>> related matters=2C it does not automatically follow that people who
>> oppose Kinists are correct on race-related matters. The whole
>> subject of
>> race is one of the most difficult areas to discuss rationally in
>> America today=3B everybody is dragging around so much baggage that it
>> is really rare to find clear=2C dispassionate thinking on race-related
>> issues. As a Christian=2C I'm still trying to figure out where "race"
>> fits into God's scheme for things=3B I am acutely aware of the need to
>> keep an open mind and consider various views on the subject. I'm not
>> going to reject out of hand EVERYTHING a politically
>> incorrect person says simply because some of what they say is wrong
>> or because the source of the information is "tainted."
>>
>> 3. As to the charge that I am a racist=2C I wonder whether you are
>> aware that I am married to a person of a different race. I have been
>> advised by Kinists that if I ever want to become a Kinist=2C the first
>> thing I need to do is divorce my wife and send her and the mongrel
>> kids "away."
>>
>> 4. Since I never mentioned it=2C there is no way you could be aware
>> that in a previous life I operated a shelter in the middle of a poor
>> black neighborhood that took in troubled (mentally ill=2C destitute=2C
>> etc.) people referred to me by the city's social care workers. I
>> lived under the same roof and broke bread with black people (along
>> with people of other races)=2C some of them with really serious
>> issues=2C more or less continually over the course of two years.
>>
>> 5. As to the charge of anti-Semitism=2C for whatever it might be
>> worth=2C I should point out that I have close relatives who are
>> Jewish=3B we get along just fine and I am not aware of harboring any
>> animosity toward Jews on account of their Jewishness. I do have
>> serious misgivings about Zionism=2C but then so do many Jews. Your
>> accusation that I think "Jews are the enemy of God" is simply false=3B
>> I emphatically deny thinking that Jews are THE enemy of God. I
>> believe that ALL MEN who have yet to come to faith in Christ are in
>> a condition of enmity with God. That would include Jews but not in
>> any special sense. I view the apostasy of Christians=2C such as my own
>> mother=2C with far more concern than I do any Jew.
>>
>> 6. Because of point 1. above=2C I am aware that points 2. through 5.
>> may mean nothing: I could still be a racist=2C sexist anti-Semite
>> because somebody else took offense at something I said. Frankly=2C I
>> gave up caring a long time ago. There is no such thing as a right to
>> not be offended. So if this be racism/sexism/anti-Semitism=2C then I
>> say make the most of it. Let the people who take offense over words
>> like "niggardly=2C" or over political monkey jokes that have been told
>> for years and suddenly become off limits because we've got a black
>> president in the White House=2C etc.=2C stew in their own juices. I
>> agree with the sign at the Tea Party: "It doesn't matter what the
>> sign says=3B you're going to call it racist anyway."
>>
>> 7. As an example of 6. above=2C perhaps somebody might have taken
>> offense that I said the Nazis got a bum rap. Please note well=2C that
>> is not the same as saying the Nazis did not do any of the things
>> they have been accused of. (I made that quite clear in the statement
>> you misquoted.) However=2C it remains true that the Nazis have been
>> widely accused of things that they never did. For example=2C for
>> nearly half a century they were accused of having massacred
>> something in the neighborhood of 25=2C000 Poles in 1940=2C when in fact
>> that was actually committed by the Soviets. The USA and the U.K.
>> were deliberately complicit in hiding the truth until the Soviets
>> themselves finally admitted the truth in 1990. ( http://en.wikipedia.org=
/wiki/Katyn_massacre
>> ) And that is hardly the only example of lies that have been told=2C
>> and continue to be told=2C about the Nazis. I rejoice that Hitler is
>> and shall always be tormented in eternal damnation. He deserves
>> every bit of his eternal punishment. But I fail to see why it is
>> necessary to perpetuate lies and distortions about ANYONE=2C including
>> the Nazis. They were plenty bad enough for what they actually were=2C
>> and what they actually did=2C without any need to paint them as worse
>> than they really were. I also think it is disgusting that some Jews
>> have produced fake Holocaust memoirs that they attempt to pass off
>> as factual=2C and that some Jews have managed to turn the Holocaust
>> into an industry from which they make a very nice living indeed=2C
>> thank you. The Nazis were human beings JUST LIKE US and that should
>> scare all of us. One reason why fastidious adherence to the truth=2C
>> without embellishment or exaggeration=2C is so important is that
>> failure to do so can play into the hands of genuine haters who want
>> to paint the Nazis as "the good guys" and who think that all the
>> world's problems would somehow just disappear if every last Jew
>> could only be killed.
>>
>> 8. Regarding Qaddafi=2C I never said that I agree with him. I do not
>> agree with him. However=2C given that the police work surrounding the
>> JFK assassination was so terrible as to be criminal in its own
>> right=2C and given that the Warren Commission's investigation was
>> somewhat of a fiasco=2C we really cannot say with any confidence that
>> JFK was assassinated the way the Warren Report claimed it was. Under
>> the circumstances=2C Qaddafi's guess is as good as anyone's. We have
>> the U.S. government to thank for that.
>>
>> 9. Regarding Iran's nukes=2C I was glad to see that Obama got rid of
>> the missile shield over Poland that was ostensibly supposed to be
>> protecting from Iranian missiles. That whole thing was an
>> unwarranted provocation of the Russians and the fact that the shield
>> project was dropped simply proves that it never had anything to do
>> with Iran in the first place. However=2C I worry that as part of the
>> deal Russia may have agreed to allow Israel to take some sort of
>> military action against Iran in the near future. This prospect
>> really bothers me=3B I consider the United States and Israel to be the
>> two big trouble-making bullies on the block=2C not that any other
>> country one might care to mention deserves our praise as a paragon
>> of national virtue. Relatively speaking=2C however=2C we can say two
>> things. 1) Iran has been repeatedly shat on by the USA. Considering
>> all the harm that we did to their country=2C the Iranian people as a
>> whole are remarkably amicably disposed toward the American people.
>> Pat Robertson and his ilk could learn a thing or ten from the
>> Iranians. 2) In matters nuclear=2C Iran is playing by the rules. It
>> has signed the NPT=2C has informed the IAEA of its nuclear facilities
>> (which are entirely legal in the context of international law)=2C and
>> is allowing inspections. Contrast that with Israel=2C which has
>> hundreds of nuclear warheads and the ability to deliver them
>> anywhere in the Mideast=2C has never signed the NPT=2C and has refused
>> repeated requests from the IAEA and the United Nations to allow
>> inspections of its nuclear facilities. Iran is playing by the rules
>> and Israel is not.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbbjgDERSuiI
>>
>>
>> Nous Tweaker
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> Can you handle the truth?
>> http://noustweaker.blogspot.com/
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