[Vision2020] Apologize for what?

g. crabtree jampot at roadrunner.com
Thu Sep 24 17:42:38 PDT 2009


Rats. There should be a "doesn't" inserted between this and come in the second to the last sentence

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: g. crabtree 
  To: keely emerinemix ; philosopher.joe at gmail.com ; Nick Gier 
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Apologize for what?


  ""Prevailing Winds" was not something I began to "bother" a local pastor and his church."

  Riiight. Lets see, the site kicks off on 09 August 2008 with a broadside aimed at the source of your obsession posted that same day. For the following month (specifically 11, 13, 16, 25, 28, 30 August 01, 06, 07, and 08 September) you manage to find reason to "rebuke the errors" of the same man or ministry (the gaps, with rare exception, reflect days that you didn't post at all) Amazing how narrow your search for ecumenical error is. If during this time you had managed to take any other religious figure to task I might be willing to buy your line but, as it is, your dog don't hunt. (never mind the fact that Perry most likely couldn't overpower a dust bunny in a one on one without help from a pomeranian) If you wanted to discuss the Kirk less, might I suggest that you stop scouring blogs that are connected to that ministry and branch out a little. I understand that there's a couple of congregations in Chicago that might benefit from your special brand of scrutiny.

  Also, as I have said before but once more for the record, I don't "hate" you or what you say. I disagree with you sometimes but that's it. I hope this come across wrong or disappoint you in some way but you don't even show up on my "mild dislike" or even the "don't much care either way" list. You know which roster that leaves, don't you?

  Sorry,
  g
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: keely emerinemix 
    To: jampot at roadrunner.com ; philosopher.joe at gmail.com ; Nick Gier 
    Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
    Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:22 PM
    Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Apologize for what?


    "Prevailing Winds" was not something I began to "bother" a local pastor and his church.  It's purpose -- my purpose -- is to defend the Gospel, which necessarily requires examining and rebuking the errors and conduct of those who dishonor it.  That Wilson, et al, appear so often on my blog is an indication of the gross excesses of their peculiar brand of dishonoring the Gospel, not my fascination with any of them.  It's not enough to criticize; I also offer what I think is the correct Christian teaching or manner of conduct pertaining to Wilson's errors in both theology and practice.  Believe me -- I'd like to talk a whole lot less about the Kirk, which would be the case if there were nothing to discuss.  

    It's sad that you don't see the difference between Prevailing Winds and Viper Gal Sin Wind in origin, intent, inspiration, and content, but I really don't care.  I just "really don't care" while not hiding like a coward behind anonymity, something that you, as a gentleman, ought to applaud.  Even though you hate what I say, you know that it was Keely who said it.  


    Keely
    www.keely-prevailingwinds.com





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    From: jampot at roadrunner.com
    To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com; eimyreekenxlime at hotmail.com
    Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:46:26 -0700
    CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Apologize for what?


    What's the difference between a web site that is created for no other reason then to "bother" a local church, its Pastor, and its elders and a site that does pretty much the same thing in reverse aside from the formers ideological compatibility with your own personal prejudices?

    All the breathless and overblown rhetoric, which would most certainly include creepy, cyber stalking, criminal activity, and perhaps the most over the top, mortal sin, is the apex of molehill mountaineering and manufactured outrage.

    g
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
    To: "Eimy Reekenxlime" <eimyreekenxlime at hotmail.com>
    Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:45 PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Apologize for what?


    > Dude,
    > 
    > You set up a website with no purpose other than to bother another  
    > person. If you don't think that's wrong, you need help. I don't care  
    > what excuss you think you have. You're wrong and the fact that you  
    > implicate God in your sin -- you pretend it is justified "because God  
    > sanctions it" -- only makes the sin a mortal one.
    > 
    > You are in trouble. Get a grip.
    > 
    > I pray for your soul, dear brother!
    > 
    > Sent from my iPhone
    > 
    > On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Eimy Reekenxlime <eimyreekenxlime at hotmail.com 
    > > wrote:
    > 
    >>
    >> <E56F42817870B1419AD874AF42906A7B01082FE8 at EXVS2.its.uidaho.edu>
    >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
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    >>
    >> Nick Gier suggests that an apology might be in order. If was  
    >> convinced that=
    >> I had wronged Mrs. Mix=2C I would want to repent and seek her  
    >> forgiveness.=
    >> In all seriousness=2C however=2C I think that the most offensive  
    >> things on=
    >> that blog are the direct quotes from=2C and links to=2C her  
    >> descriptions o=
    >> f members of Christ Church and other Christians of their ilk=2C  
    >> painting th=
    >> em in various shades of "vile." I can't repent for her public  
    >> statements=2C=
    >> although if I have seriously misquoted her or distorted her  
    >> positions In t=
    >> he course of criticizing her that might be something to repent of.
    >>
    >> And I don't doubt or dispute that she has many fine qualities that  
    >> surely e=
    >> ndear her to people in her community. For example=2C she obviously  
    >> has a de=
    >> ep concern for the healing of the oppressed=2C downtrodden and  
    >> broken peopl=
    >> e of this world (at least those who managed to make it out of the  
    >> womb in o=
    >> ne piece). One of my reasons for criticizing her is because I share  
    >> those c=
    >> oncerns and want to see those people truly helped=2C which means  
    >> employing =
    >> solutions endorsed by the Bible. She has on more than one occasion  
    >> describe=
    >> d herself as essentially a utilitarian on matters of social policy:  
    >> whateve=
    >> r seems to help the people who need the most help the most=2C she's  
    >> all for=
    >> it. Thing is=2C not only the Bible but also the secular philosophers  
    >> long =
    >> ago demonstrated the untenability of utilitarianism. Somehow that  
    >> never see=
    >> ms to stop people from trying to employ it as a guide to social  
    >> policy.=20
    >>
    >> Anyway=2C if I have something specific to repent of I'd certainly  
    >> like to h=
    >> ave that pointed out to me so I can change.
    >>
    >> Eimy Reekenxlime
    >> =3D= 
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