[Vision2020] Apologize for what?
Warren Hayman
whayman at roadrunner.com
Thu Sep 24 15:07:28 PDT 2009
Hi Sunil etc.,
It is that, but more. Keely questions (and perhaps exposes) positions she finds untenable. These positions are logically based. If such encompasses an institution or person, such entities simply fall within the rubric or umbrella of her stated (and signed) perspectives and views of Christianity.
Accordingly, her voice speaks to all who may mis-interpret/represent Christianity, or use it to their own ends. She has never said her interpretation is final.
Yes, she can point the finger of "you are wrong" at times. But with personal stake, and I've yet to read her rejoicing in "I am right." She writes toward a worldview, not a person directly unless such a person exists in contrast. And she does, of course, by virtue of signing her name, invite honest response.
Warren Hayman
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From: Sunil Ramalingam
Cc: vision 2020
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Apologize for what?
Gary,
Isn't it the difference between Keely standing behind what she says, and a coward hiding in anonymity?
Now I doubt the coward has broken any laws, but he's still abelly-crawler.
Sunil
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From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com; eimyreekenxlime at hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:46:26 -0700
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Apologize for what?
What's the difference between a web site that is created for no other reason then to "bother" a local church, its Pastor, and its elders and a site that does pretty much the same thing in reverse aside from the formers ideological compatibility with your own personal prejudices?
All the breathless and overblown rhetoric, which would most certainly include creepy, cyber stalking, criminal activity, and perhaps the most over the top, mortal sin, is the apex of molehill mountaineering and manufactured outrage.
g
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From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: "Eimy Reekenxlime" <eimyreekenxlime at hotmail.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Apologize for what?
> Dude,
>
> You set up a website with no purpose other than to bother another
> person. If you don't think that's wrong, you need help. I don't care
> what excuss you think you have. You're wrong and the fact that you
> implicate God in your sin -- you pretend it is justified "because God
> sanctions it" -- only makes the sin a mortal one.
>
> You are in trouble. Get a grip.
>
> I pray for your soul, dear brother!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Eimy Reekenxlime <eimyreekenxlime at hotmail.com
> > wrote:
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>> Nick Gier suggests that an apology might be in order. If was
>> convinced that=
>> I had wronged Mrs. Mix=2C I would want to repent and seek her
>> forgiveness.=
>> In all seriousness=2C however=2C I think that the most offensive
>> things on=
>> that blog are the direct quotes from=2C and links to=2C her
>> descriptions o=
>> f members of Christ Church and other Christians of their ilk=2C
>> painting th=
>> em in various shades of "vile." I can't repent for her public
>> statements=2C=
>> although if I have seriously misquoted her or distorted her
>> positions In t=
>> he course of criticizing her that might be something to repent of.
>>
>> And I don't doubt or dispute that she has many fine qualities that
>> surely e=
>> ndear her to people in her community. For example=2C she obviously
>> has a de=
>> ep concern for the healing of the oppressed=2C downtrodden and
>> broken peopl=
>> e of this world (at least those who managed to make it out of the
>> womb in o=
>> ne piece). One of my reasons for criticizing her is because I share
>> those c=
>> oncerns and want to see those people truly helped=2C which means
>> employing =
>> solutions endorsed by the Bible. She has on more than one occasion
>> describe=
>> d herself as essentially a utilitarian on matters of social policy:
>> whateve=
>> r seems to help the people who need the most help the most=2C she's
>> all for=
>> it. Thing is=2C not only the Bible but also the secular philosophers
>> long =
>> ago demonstrated the untenability of utilitarianism. Somehow that
>> never see=
>> ms to stop people from trying to employ it as a guide to social
>> policy.=20
>>
>> Anyway=2C if I have something specific to repent of I'd certainly
>> like to h=
>> ave that pointed out to me so I can change.
>>
>> Eimy Reekenxlime
>> =3D=
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>> Can you handle the truth?
>> http://vipergalsinwind.blogspot.com/
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