[Vision2020] Local Media Celebrity

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Sat Oct 31 07:53:38 PDT 2009

Mutally respectful discussion from Hitchens and Wilson? You haven't  
really followed the debate, have you. Hitchens thinks that  
fundamentalists like Wilson are dangerous idiots. He also thinks that  
ALL Christians are fundamentalists. Thus, religion in general is  
nothing more than dangerous idiocy.

Wilson, of course, thinks that Christianity allows for slavery -- that  
some slavery is permissable -- and has written -- well, at least wrote  
part of since the original work was partly ripped if from a  
discredited academic source -- a revisionist history of American  
slavery, where it turns out that the best race relations in the  
country happened when we kept blacks in chains!

This is not an academic debate -- they have exactly one MA between  
them. This is a circus, where difficult issues about religion are  
glossed over in favor of insulting generalizations. Of course, this  
kind of crap has always sold well!

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On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Selina Davis <selinadavis at hotmail.com>  

> And here's the link to info about the movie: http://www.collisionmovie.com/ 
>  and a link to Pastor Wilson with Chris Hitchens for an hour on the  
> nationally-syndicated Laura Ingraham Show today (haven't listened to  
> it yet): http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2009/10/23/70483.aspx
> It's always intriguing when someone around here gains a degree of  
> notoriety beyond our region.  Can we anticipate a showing and  
> spirited (yet hopefully mutually respectful) discussion at the Nuart  
> and/or Kenworthy sometime soon?
> - Selina
> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:41:30 -0700
> From: rforce2003 at yahoo.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Local Media Celebrity
> fighting words
> Faith No More
> What I've learned from debating religious people around the world.
> By Christopher Hitchens
> Posted Monday, Oct. 26, 2009, at 11:21 AM ET
> This week sees the opening on various cinema marquees of the film  
> Collision: a buddy-and-road movie featuring last year's debates  
> between Pastor Douglas Wilson, who is a senior fellow at New St.  
> Andrew's College, and your humble servant. (If I may be forgiven,  
> it's also available on DVD, and you can buy our little book of  
> exchanges, Is Christianity Good for the World?)
> Newsweek's reviewer beseeches you not to go and see the film,  
> largely on the grounds that it features two middle-aged white men  
> trying to establish which one is the dominant male. I would have  
> thought that this would be reason enough to buy a ticket, but  
> perhaps she would have preferred the debate held in London last week  
> featuring me and Stephen Fry (two magnificent specimens of white  
> mammalhood) versus a female member of Parliament who is a Tory  
> Catholic convert and the Roman Catholic archbishop of Abuja,  
> Nigeria. It filled one of the largest halls in the city, and many  
> people had to be turned away. For a combination of reasons, the  
> subject of religion is back where it always ought to be—at the very  
> center of any argument about the clash of world views.
> Continues at: http://www.slate.com/id/2233586/
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