[Vision2020] More Evangelical Christians are Getting It

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Mon Oct 19 17:35:09 PDT 2009


Tell me, why don't you criticize adulters as much as gays? And some in  
your church have committed sexually immoral acts; no doubt some are  
adulters. Why not use your fake name to publically condemn them?

This is a serious set of questions. Save the insults and please answer  
it.

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On Oct 19, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Objective Reason  
<objectivereason at gmail.com> wrote:

> Evangelical Christians are getting it?  There is nothing for  
> Christians to get in that area.  The Bible is explicitly clear  
> concerning homosexuality.
>
> I Cor. 6:9-10 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not  
> inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually  
> immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice  
> homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor  
> revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
>
> I Tim. 1:9-11 "understanding this, that the law is not laid down for  
> the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and  
> sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their  
> fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who  
> practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever  
> else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of  
> the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted."
>
> These verses are pretty self-explanatory (whether you agree with  
> them or not).  So Christians that are beginning to accept  
> homosexuality are going against their own faith.  I'm sure you would  
> say that people are entitled to believe whatever they want, and  
> while you obviously don't agree with Christianity very much, it  
> should be pointed out that those "Christians" in the gay parades are  
> the ones not getting it.  Christians should treat them just like  
> murderers, enslavers, liars etc.  Christians preach against it, pray  
> for them, and minister to them, just like murderers etc.  No bigotry  
> here.  But that's obviously not how you see it.
>
>
>
> Art- You sure draw a lot of conclusions and create a lot of  
> conspiracy theories by not attending the conference or visiting the  
> churches you attack.
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Saundra Lund  
> <v2020 at ssl.fastmail.fm> wrote:
> In spite of Christ Church's gross perversion last week (the "Sexual
> Orthodoxy" ministerial conference), it heartens me to continue to come
> across more and more Evangelical Christians who really are getting it.
>
> A Step in Faith
> Evangelical Christian Brent Childers explains his journey from  
> believing
> that homosexuality was an abomination to marching in a pro-gay march  
> on
> Washington.
>
> http://www.newsweek.com/id/216910
>
> "There are many, many others I have met in my work with Faith in  
> America, as
> we try to bring awareness and understanding to the pain and trauma  
> caused to
> LGBT people, especially youth, when church teaching is misused to  
> justify
> and promote a societal climate of rejection, condemnation, and
> discrimination. . . Every person coming to Washington-whether they are
> religious or not-does share one faith, and that is faith in America.  
> We can
> and must do better. As the progress of history has shown, Americans  
> will
> prove themselves able to see beyond religion-based bigotry to the  
> promises
> of equal treatment for all. Those who use religion-based bigotry to
> persecute and discriminate against LGBT people are on the wrong side  
> of
> history, just as they were with slavery, interracial marriage, the  
> treatment
> of women, and so many other issues."
>
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