[Vision2020] Ah for the Good Old Days . . .

[deb]

Gosh, sounds like WSU has exported some of their folks to St. 
Petersburg....one hopes the perps aren't benefiting from the inflated 
"salary" while continuing a free ride, as happened at our local institution 
of "higher learning"....Also a reminder of the Clarkston City Council a few 
years back.
I'm just not understanding the zero to 60 move from discussion to violent 
acting out which I see reported everywhere. So I don't like you, I should 
get a gun to brandish, or show up at your office and punch you out? If this 
is acceptable, I'm just sayin' lotsa folks better look out----like the guy 
who pulled out in front of me on Hywy 95 today and nearly caused a three car 
pile-up---I have your license number, and am really good at finding 
people.....No, I can't do the mental gymnastics that make that a viable 
option. What the heck has gone wrong that this is becoming the norm?
Debi R-S

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 3:18 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Ah for the Good Old Days . . .


Fight breaks out at St. Petersburg City Council meeting

ST. PETERSBURG - A brawl erupted at a City Council meeting Thursday after
council members voted to cede the public sidewalk fronting BayWalk to its
owners.

The controversial 5-3 vote sent the audience into a flurry of celebratory
cheers and passionate criticism that soon led to a fight.

The Rev. Bruce Wright, who spent weeks opposing the proposal, yelled: "You
are so full of (expletive) it is ridiculous."

Frederick Dudley, who is the older brother of council member Bill Dudley
and who had been in favor of the idea, screamed back: "Why don't you
move?"

Then Frederick Dudley, 76, and Ronald Deaton, 61, a free speech activist,
briefly traded insults before Dudley rushed Deaton.

The men grabbed each other by the neck and tumbled to the ground in a
flurry of punches.

Police officers pulled the men apart and then jumped on Deaton while
Dudley walked around the council chambers, speaking quietly with city
officials.

Eventually, both men were escorted from City Hall, arrested and charged
with disorderly conduct.

The brief fight followed weeks of intense debate from opponents and
proponents of the sidewalk issue who both saw the measure as a turning
point in St. Petersburg's future.

At stake was the future of BayWalk and downtown's economic health,
according to supporters who insisted the flagging downtown complex could
not recover unless the sidewalk was closed to loitering teenagers,
panhandlers and demonstrators.

Critics argued the measure established a dangerous precedent against free
speech that would do little to revive a venue failing because of
competition, mismanagement, a faulty retail mix and the recession.

BayWalk's owners had promised to pump $6 million in improvements into the
center if given the sidewalk.

"We are pleased with today's decision and are committed to revitalizing
BayWalk and making it a successful project all St. Petersburg will be
proud of," property manager Tom McGeachy said in a statement. "We remain
sensitive to opposing views and will continue to reach out to all
community groups, including protesters, for the good of St. Petersburg and
BayWalk."

Mayor Rick Baker and his staff said they spent months toiling over
potential solutions with BayWalk's owners before concluding that
privatizing the sidewalk was necessary to turning around the complex.

BayWalk's retail space is about 70 percent vacant, and the remaining
tenants had threatened to leave if the sidewalk was not made private.

In an earlier vote two weeks ago, the council was divided over the issue,
casting a 4-4 vote that seemed to kill the effort. Council members Leslie
Curran, Jeff Danner, Wengay Newton and Herb Polson cast the dissenting
votes then.

However, Baker and BayWalk executives quickly rallied the council to
reconsider.

Polson did, asking his colleagues for a new vote on the condition that
city officials reach out to opponents and explore alternatives.

That never happened. The city and BayWalk canceled two meetings with
free-speech activists and then seemed miffed when the protesters said they
could not attend a hastily scheduled meeting Wednesday.

A 23-page report handed to council members during a BayWalk workshop
Thursday morning did not include alternatives to turning over the
sidewalk.

Police Assistant Chief Luke Williams told council members that additional
enforcement would not make a difference if the sidewalk remained public.

"There is ample coverage. Downtown St. Petersburg and BayWalk are safe,"
he said.

Baker said his staff did explore other options but found no feasible
alternatives.

After the workshop, a handful of free speech activists cornered Danner
outside his council office and asked why he refused to let them speak
before the vote. Danner said BayWalk vowed to meet soon with the
protesters.

"I was satisfied that that is going to happen and left it at that," said
Danner.

Polson said he initially voted against the measure because he wanted to
study the city's policy on land vacations. He did and felt comfortable the
BayWalk proposal met all the criteria.

The sidewalk will be made private after procedural steps are completed.
Voting in favor of the vacation Thursday were Polson, Dudley, Jim Kennedy,
Jamie Bennett and Karl Nurse.

Chris Ernesto, an organizer for St. Pete for Peace, said his group and
others plan to legally challenge the sidewalk vacation.

He scheduled a protest at BayWalk at 8:30 p.m. today.

"It's ironic that we had not protested at BayWalk in seven months and
offered not to protest there for another 12 months," he said. "But now,
because of the City Council's decision, we will once again hold regular
protests there."

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Video of Brawl

http://www.tomandrodna.com/StP_CC_Brawl.htm

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Ladies and Gentlemen . . . the Main Event . . .

Let's get ready to ruuuuuuuummmmmmmmmble.

Next Moscow City Council Session: Monday (October 19, 2009)

Order your tickets now.  Ringside seats are still available.

Seeya there, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
and the Realist adjusts his sails."

- Unknown


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