[Vision2020] vandals strike again (I fixed it for you Donovan)

Sun Nov 8 11:52:28 PST 2009

Debi,

Holidays comes from Holy Days. That is Etymology fact. But I do like your take on the Holly Days. But Holly also comes from Holy. 

In either case, it came from religion. And a tradition was created by religion in this country. 

Your Friend,

Donovan Arnold

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, deb <debismith at moscow.com> wrote:

From: deb <debismith at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vandals strike again (I fixed it for you Donovan)
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com, "Mike Deleve" <coolerfixer at roadrunner.com>
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 12:57 PM

Actually, Donovan, it can be argued that Holidays is from Holly Days, which comes from the Pagan celebration of Winter Solstice where the Holly King is one of the focal points. Do some research--it's fascinating how much of the Christian Holidays and traditions come straight from Pagan practices the Christians could not eradicate and thus were incorporated....
Debi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Donovan Arnold 
To: vision2020 at moscow.com ; Mike Deleve 
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vandals strike again (I fixed it for you Donovan)

"The difference between the right word and the wrong word is the difference between lightning bolt and lightning bug," --Mark Twain

The US Constitution doesn't guarantee anyone from religion, in fact, it does the opposite. It promises the freedom of religion, not FROM, as you twist and subvert it to mean;

"It is our freedom and right to be free from God in everything we do." 

So your parody doesn't work and is constitutionally, factually, and historically incorrect. 

Nor are Christians forcing anyone to insert God into anything. They are free to reject God all they want. As for escaping God, I don't think that is physically possible. 

Atheists cannot use Happy Holidays, because Holi, the root word is religious, for Holy Days.

Merry Christmas,

Donovan Arnold

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Mike Deleve <coolerfixer at roadrunner.com> wrote:

From: Mike Deleve <coolerfixer at roadrunner.com>
Subject: [Vision2020] vandals strike again (I fixed it for you Donovan)
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 4:55 PM

This makes at least as much sense.

Donovan,

I agree that there are a great number of Christians that are not out to do harm, and just want to be left alone and want to leave atheists alone. Unfortunately, that is not the case for most Christians.

Many Christians ridicule atheists. Attack them as people. Make fun of their lack of belief in God as equivocal to that of children believing in the Easter Bunny. But also want to bring real harm by the elimination and change of US Culture to insert God and replace the Constitution with the Bible as the head of all authority. They want to tax, and consequently, shut down anyone that disagrees with them.

Christianity not only brings a cultural breakdown of basic American Values and Traditions, but at its very core promotes the principles of insanity. 

Many Atheists want the 20+% of the people that don't believe in God to bow down to them, and  say "Merry Christmas", "God Bless you", or "One Nation Under God". 

They don't care that 20+% of Americans are offended that God is forced into their daily lives. Nobody is barring Christians from church, or to be buried in a cemetary, or to celebrate Christmas. But they want all of it to be mandated into any public area to accomodate their personal belief system..

Understand, whenever people preach God, there will ALWAYS be oppostion. It is our freedom and right to be free from God in everything we do. Many Christians piss people off because they don't think of them as people that want to be free from their beliefs but are hostile people instead, that are out to stop us from celebrating ours. 

Happy Holidays,

Mike Deleve
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