[Vision2020] Just Curious

Fri Nov 6 06:25:59 PST 2009

I think when we start talking about our beliefs we are wasting our time. I mean, most people don't care what other people think unless it is about them. :P

Remember when people reflected on the greatest lecture by Socrates; He stood up after drinking too much wine, burped, and fell on the floor. 

I look forward to seeing you for lunch after the holidays.

Your Friend,

Donovan Arnold
--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>, "<vision2020 at moscow.com>" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 3:26 AM

All philosphers? Or all people with philosophical beliefs? If I believe in God, am I wasting my time? Or does the time wasting start when I start talking about my beliefs?

After holidays is fine! Joe

On Nov 5, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Joe,

I think the conversation is childish. I think all philosophers waste their time. :P. But it sure is fun doing it, isn't it? 

Logic is great! But it doesn't apply to humans because they aren't logical in the least, are they? :)

Lunch with you sounds fantastic. Unless of course it comes out of the sea. I think, which perhaps the exception of tuna and salt, anything in the sea ought the stay there. You will have to wait until after the holidays though because I am working a lot of hours until then. 

Your Friend,

Donovan Arnold

--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>, "<vision2020 at moscow.com>" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 11:30 PM

Are you saying, Donovan, that I'm wasting my time with childish conversation?

Let's have lunch, and talk about that. I'll buy.

On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Childish conversation, please take off site. THX.

Donovan Arnold

--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
To: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
Cc: "<vision2020 at moscow.com>" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 10:33 PM

I think we might have all gone on too long about this BUT part of the issue is did Wayne or anyone SAY anything about Weber on the V. Wayne says 'No' and I don't recall anything being said by anyone. So I believe him.

I'll only add that I like each of Wayne, and Matt, and Keely, even though I've said some inappropriate things to each in the heat of the moment. Sorry about that to each of you! No doubt I'd like Weber, too, if I ever met him, and I don't give a damn what he does for a living or drinks for a beverage!

On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:07 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:

For heaven's sake, Wayne, you just wrote to me that he did have a drinking problem.  I think that's probably clear enough.  And, for the zillionth time, I think it's inappropriate -- hurtful, unkind -- to bring it up.

?????

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com

From: deco at moscow..com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:49:02 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious

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JFOR, Matt stop lying!

I have never made such an assertion.

Show V2020 anything that I asserted that even resembled "he's is in and has been in an alcohol recovery program".  You are free to post all private correspondence between us on this subject.

W.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Matt Decker 
To: kjajmix1 at msn.com ; philosopher.joe at gmail.com 
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious

I believe his words something to the effect of "he's is in and has been in an alcohol recovery program". He never said alki but thats the way most will take it. For that I apologize to Wayne.

MD 

From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com; mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:31:45 -0800
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious

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I must have missed Art Deco's saying that Weber was an "alki," but if that happened, it's beyond regrettable and I hope Wayne apologizes . . . 

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com

From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:01:35 -0800
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious

One other thing. When someone brought up Weber's job as a bartender, I did write on the V that that was irrelevant. Maybe you have a better opinion of me if you stopped distorting what I say and stopped conveniently forgetting the posts I write that you agree with.

On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:06 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:

Joe,

         Exactly Joe, "what has anyone done on the left that you have complained about"?

To clarify when I stated negativity or mudslinging goes both ways, I was not just meaning around here. I believe our town has a wide variety of faces and opinions all worthy. But dont for one minute think that the good ol nasty mudslinging doesnt happen both ways.

Ex.

Art deco claiming Weber is an alki and mentioning how he works at the club. How does he know? Is Art a drinking buddy? What is the purpose of stating he works at a bar. Answer: To BELITTLE 

Another one

A lady wrote an opinion piece in the daily news about two weeks ago mentioning how she won't vote for Weber or Brown because of "these" obnoxious signs around town. How all the money raised by the GMA is being wasted on signs.. Low and behold the facts come out showing that Chaney has made more money along with Reese raising more than Weber. Also, Chaney having the samne size signs all throughout Moscow.

Lastly for the night

You

"This is why the radical right movement is such a joke. They promote 
the view that government is out of touch and corrupt yet their 
candidate for mayor needs a third party to communicate and their state 
senator likes to circumvent the democratic process with last minute 
stunts, like this weekend's letter".

Along with referring to our city council as "joke radicals". Care to explain?

Your last page excuse, mentioning how you never said they are radicals, looks weird to me from the above statements.

Joe can you imagine if I said the radical left movement on this site. But then again I wouldn't do that. Just like I don't expect that from you. 

Take care

MD

From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:20:10 -0800
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com

Give me a break! What exactly has anyone from the left done that I have complained about? Give ONE example? There is none.

Again, what IS radical if circumventing the Democratic process is not? And if you've been paying attention, it wasn't the first time. It is a regular occurence. What IS radical if having connections with a group on the Southern Poverty Law Center watch list is not?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:

So why not complain when the left does it Joe? Don't tell me they don't. 

Both sides do and I don't agree with it. But, to label Gary as a radical, is a little far fetched in my opinion.

Gotta work

From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:46:04 -0800
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious

Another thing: if circumventing the Democratic process is not radical enough, what is? 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:11 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:

Ok. So is he radical?

M

From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:54:38 -0800
CC: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com

Matt,

He quoted the sitting mayor from a confidential letter leaked on Dale Courtney's website. At least that was the source according to his website when I checked it this morning.

He also quoted Nancy out of context. And he did it all while hiding his source. Why did he hide the source? Well one reason is that we'd figure out the quote was out of context. You guess the other reason.

I'm for information, not distortion. That's democracy for me. Give me the info and I'll decide. And when my guy resorts to this sort of crap, I tell him to hit the road. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:

Not so sure Schroeder is radical right. Do you think he is in the same as Limbaugh and Hannity?

> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:03:38 -0800
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
> 
> This is why the radical right movement is such a joke. They promote 
> the view that government is out of touch and corrupt yet their 
> candidate for mayor needs a third party to communicate and their state 
> senator likes to circumvent the democratic process with last minute 
> stunts, like this weekend's letter.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:26 PM, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> 
> > Bottom line, Wayne . . .
> >
> > If the mayor is not accessible by the people, how is that mayor 
> > going to
> > represent those people?
> >
> > Mayor Chaney responds to public email inquiries regularly.
> >
> > Here it is the night before election day and the people of Moscow 
> > don't
> > even know if John Weber even checks his email.
> >
> > Why does John Weber respond to the people of Moscow, DURING HIS 
> > ELECTION
> > CAMPAIGN, through a third party (Greg Kimberling)?
> >
> > If John Weber is elected mayor, will Greg Kimberling be Mayor Weber's
> > communication link with the people of Moscow?
> >
> > Seeya at the polls, Moscow.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to 
> > change
> > and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> >
> > - Unknown
> >
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