[Vision2020] vandals strike again

Thu Nov 5 15:08:04 PST 2009

Donovan,

The problem is WHO gets to decide what is an appropriate context?

On Nov 5, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:

> That's funny. I think all roadside billboards should be taken down,  
> they make American Roadways ugly and cause accidents. Or at least it  
> should be legal to have big bushy mustaches drawn on their faces,  
> unless it is Geraldo, then you would have to paint over the  
> mustache. : V| D
>
> I don't think billboards announcing that Santa isn't real, or how to  
> use a condom is appropriate either, because children can read those  
> signs, and they do, and a parent may wish to censor what ads and  
> information their children receive.
>
> Case and point; A child is coming home from their Grandmother's  
> funeral or a school shooting funeral. They tell the child  
> grandmother or friend are with God. Then they read a sign saying,  
> there is no God.
>
> I am for free speech, but always in an appropriate context.
>
> This is ironic too, maybe the Humanists can pray their signs won't  
> be vandalized. Or find a more appropriate  way of expressing their  
> point of view.
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
>
> --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> From: Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vandals strike again
> To: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> Cc: "<vision2020 at secure.fsr.com>" <vision2020 at secure.fsr.com>
> Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 3:58 PM
>
> Once the Humanists  get the sign redone, and I really hope they do,  
> would it be that hard to REMOVE the ladder leading up to the platform?
> Carrying a can of paint at night is one thing, but paint and a  
> ladder?  Perhaps  the creeps could be caught that way.
> Or, perhaps  a camera, so the creeps could be identified and  
> prosecuted?
>
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Joe Campbell wrote:
>
>> This is against free speech, against property rights, and against  
>> religious freedom.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 4, 2009, at 2:38 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wish whoever is doing this would knock it off.  If the most  
>>> courageous stand you can make for your faith in God is to deface a  
>>> billboard, you've really got some spiritual inventory to examine.
>>>
>>> Keely
>>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: london at moscow.com
>>> To: vision2020 at secure.fsr.com
>>> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:13:55 -0800
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] vandals strike again
>>>
>>> Humanist Billboard Vandalized in Moscow, Idaho…Again
>>>
>>> (Washington, D.C, November 4, 2009) An individual or individuals  
>>> have
>>> defaced a billboard in Moscow, Idaho… again. The billboard  
>>> originally
>>> read "Millions are good without God" but was partially obscured with
>>> blue paint to now read “Millions are good with God”. It's the second
>>> time the American Humanist Association (AHA)-sponsored billboard has
>>> been vandalized in two weeks. In the first instance the word  
>>> "without"
>>> was completely blacked out, after which the AHA quickly replaced the
>>> billboard. The advertisement, which was originally placed
>>> mid-September, is part of an American Humanist Association  
>>> advertising
>>> campaign to spread awareness about being good without God. It's the
>>> third billboard advertisement the organization has displayed in the
>>> Moscow area and similar ads have been put up around the country.
>>>
>>> A picture of the vandalized billboard can be found here:
>>> http://www.americanhumanist.org/system/storage/29/1225/Picture_002.jpg 
>>> .
>>> The billboard can be found on Highway 95, just south of Moscow near
>>> the Sweet Avenue cross street, facing northbound traffic.
>>>
>>> "The irony here is worth noting," said David Niose, president of the
>>> American Humanist Association. "Some individuals are committing
>>> criminal acts while apparently claiming that their religious view of
>>> the world leads to good behavior. It's not a very convincing  
>>> argument
>>> on their part."
>>>
>>> "This is not just vandalism, it is religiously motivated vandalism
>>> which attempts to silence a minority viewpoint," added Niose.
>>> "Everyone, not just humanists, should be concerned about such acts."
>>>
>>> The Moscow Police Department notified the AHA this morning. They
>>> believe the ad defaced between 1 and 3 am. The AHA has alerted the
>>> billboard company who leased the space, Lamar Outdoor, who said they
>>> will start leaving the lights on round the clock. The AHA will be
>>> replacing the billboard but hasn't yet decided whether to go with  
>>> the
>>> same design.
>>>
>>> "I’m disturbed that this happened again," said Roy Speckhardt,
>>> executive director of the American Humanist Association. "Two
>>> consecutive crimes in a town where the last incidence of billboard
>>> vandalism was years ago makes it obvious that humanists and our
>>> message are being targeted.”
>>>
>>> The American Humanist Association (www.americanhumanist.org)  
>>> advocates
>>> for the rights and viewpoints of humanists. Founded in 1941 and
>>> headquartered in Washington, D.C., its work is extended through more
>>> than 100 local chapters and affiliates across the United States.
>>>
>>> Humanism is the idea that you can be good without a belief in God.
>>>
>>> ###
>>>
>>> Contact:
>>> Karen Frantz
>>> 202-238-9088
>>> cell: 703-725-4112
>>> kfrantz at americanhumanist.org
>>>
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