[Vision2020] Just Curious

Thu Nov 5 14:07:09 PST 2009

For heaven's sake, Wayne, you just wrote to me that he did have a drinking problem.  I think that's probably clear enough.  And, for the zillionth time, I think it's inappropriate -- hurtful, unkind -- to bring it up.

?????

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com

From: deco at moscow.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:49:02 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious

JFOR, Matt stop lying!

I have never made such an assertion.

Show V2020 anything that I asserted that even resembled "he's is in 
and has been in an alcohol recovery program".  You are free to post all 
private correspondence between us on this subject.

W.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Matt 
  Decker 
  To: kjajmix1 at msn.com ; philosopher.joe at gmail.com 
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:59 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just 
  Curious

I believe his words something to the effect of "he's is in and 
  has been in an alcohol recovery program". He never said alki but thats the way 
  most will take it. For that I apologize to Wayne.

MD 

  From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com; mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 5 
  Nov 2009 08:31:45 -0800
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: 
  [Vision2020] Just Curious

  I must have missed Art Deco's saying that Weber was an "alki," but if that 
  happened, it's beyond regrettable and I hope Wayne apologizes . . . 

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com

  From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 5 
  Nov 2009 08:01:35 -0800
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: 
  [Vision2020] Just Curious

  One other thing. When someone brought up Weber's job as a bartender, I 
  did write on the V that that was irrelevant. Maybe you have a better opinion 
  of me if you stopped distorting what I say and stopped conveniently forgetting 
  the posts I write that you agree with.

On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:06 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> 
  wrote:

    Joe,

    Exactly Joe, "what has anyone done on the left that you have complained 
    about"?

To clarify when I stated negativity or mudslinging goes 
    both ways, I was not just meaning around here. I believe our town has a 
    wide variety of faces and opinions all worthy. But dont for one minute 
    think that the good ol nasty mudslinging doesnt happen both 
    ways.

Ex.

Art deco claiming Weber is an alki 
    and mentioning how he works at the club. How does he know? Is Art 
    a drinking buddy? What is the purpose of stating he works at a bar. 
    Answer: To BELITTLE 

Another one

A lady wrote 
    an opinion piece in the daily news about two weeks ago mentioning how she 
    won't vote for Weber or Brown because of "these" obnoxious signs around 
    town. How all the money raised by the GMA is being wasted on signs. Low and 
    behold the facts come out showing that Chaney has made more money along 
    with Reese raising more than Weber. Also, Chaney having the samne size signs 
    all throughout Moscow.

Lastly for the 
    night

You

"This is why the radical right movement 
    is such a joke. They promote 
the view that government is out of touch 
    and corrupt yet their 
candidate for mayor needs a third party to 
    communicate and their state 
senator likes to circumvent the democratic 
    process with last minute 
stunts, like this weekend's 
    letter".

Along with referring to our city council as "joke 
    radicals". Care to explain?

Your last page excuse, mentioning 
    how you never said they are radicals, looks weird to me from the above 
    statements.

Joe can you imagine if I said the radical 
    left movement on this site. But then again I wouldn't do that. Just 
    like I don't expect that from you. 

Take 
    care

MD

    From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: 
    mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Subject: 
    Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:20:10 -0800
CC: 
    vision2020 at moscow.com

    Give me a break! What exactly has anyone from the left done that I have 
    complained about? Give ONE example? There is none.

    Again, what IS radical if circumventing the Democratic process is not? 
    And if you've been paying attention, it wasn't the first time. It is a 
    regular occurence. What IS radical if having connections with a group on the 
    Southern Poverty Law Center watch list is not?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> 
    wrote:

      So why not complain when the left does it Joe? Don't tell me they 
      don't. 

Both sides do and I don't agree with it. But, to label Gary 
      as a radical, is a little far fetched in my opinion.

Gotta 
      work

      From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: 
      mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Date: 
      Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:46:04 -0800
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: 
      Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious

      Another thing: if circumventing the Democratic process is not radical 
      enough, what is? 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:11 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> 
      wrote:

        Ok. So is he radical?

M

        From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: 
        mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Subject: 
        Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:54:38 
        -0800
CC: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com

        Matt,

        He quoted the sitting mayor from a confidential letter leaked on 
        Dale Courtney's website. At least that was the source according to his 
        website when I checked it this morning.

        He also quoted Nancy out of context. And he did it all while hiding 
        his source. Why did he hide the source? Well one reason is that we'd 
        figure out the quote was out of context. You guess the other 
        reason.

        I'm for information, not distortion. That's democracy for me. Give 
        me the info and I'll decide. And when my guy resorts to this sort of 
        crap, I tell him to hit the road. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> 
        wrote:

          Not so sure Schroeder is radical right. Do you think he is 
          in the same as Limbaugh and Hannity?

> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> 
          To: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: 
          Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:03:38 -0800
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> 
          Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
> 
> This is why 
          the radical right movement is such a joke. They promote 
> the 
          view that government is out of touch and corrupt yet their 
> 
          candidate for mayor needs a third party to communicate and their state 

> senator likes to circumvent the democratic process with last 
          minute 
> stunts, like this weekend's letter.
> 
> 
          Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:26 PM, "Tom 
          Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com> 
          wrote:
> 
> > Bottom line, Wayne . . .
> 
          >
> > If the mayor is not accessible by the people, how is 
          that mayor 
> > going to
> > represent those 
          people?
> >
> > Mayor Chaney responds to public 
          email inquiries regularly.
> >
> > Here it is the 
          night before election day and the people of Moscow 
> > 
          don't
> > even know if John Weber even checks his 
          email.
> >
> > Why does John Weber respond to the 
          people of Moscow, DURING HIS 
> > ELECTION
> > 
          CAMPAIGN, through a third party (Greg Kimberling)?
> 
          >
> > If John Weber is elected mayor, will Greg Kimberling 
          be Mayor Weber's
> > communication link with the people of 
          Moscow?
> >
> > Seeya at the polls, Moscow.
> 
          >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> 
          >
> > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the 
          Optimist expects it to 
> > change
> > and the 
          Realist adjusts his sails."
> >
> > - 
          Unknown
> >
> >
> > 
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