[Vision2020] Just Curious
Art Deco
deco at moscow.com
Thu Nov 5 10:38:01 PST 2009
Keely,
I didn't say Weber was an alki, in fact, Matt Decker said it to me in an off-list letter.
I did say that his primary occupation was that of a bartender at The Corner Club. I said that because Weber knowingly continued to posture himself as a project manager long after he was terminated from that position and after it was pointed out months ago. The appellation"project manager" in this case was really a stretch -- paid local lobbyist would be more accurate.
I did say that Weber had a drinking problem. In addition to receiving information about this during the last two years from many sources including some who know Weber well and like him, I offered on this list to have any of those supporters (like Keim & Kimberling) to run a poll of 10 of his friends and post the results. That did not happen. While Keim argued that Weber's false claims were not worthy of comment, he offered no rebuttal of the claims about Weber's drinking habits, nor did anyone else.
Perhaps, to some lying on a resume or having a drinking problem is not a serious thing. During my career as a consultant which included helping businesses recruit and hire personnel, lying on a resume and/or having a drinking problem was an automatic disqualification from consideration of employment in the private sector for obvious reasons. Why should it be different for the public sector?
Wayne A. Fox
1009 Karen Lane
PO Box 9421
Moscow, ID 83843
waf at moscow.com
208 882-7975
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From: keely emerinemix
To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com ; mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
I must have missed Art Deco's saying that Weber was an "alki," but if that happened, it's beyond regrettable and I hope Wayne apologizes . . .
Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:01:35 -0800
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
One other thing. When someone brought up Weber's job as a bartender, I did write on the V that that was irrelevant. Maybe you have a better opinion of me if you stopped distorting what I say and stopped conveniently forgetting the posts I write that you agree with.
On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:06 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Joe,
Exactly Joe, "what has anyone done on the left that you have complained about"?
To clarify when I stated negativity or mudslinging goes both ways, I was not just meaning around here. I believe our town has a wide variety of faces and opinions all worthy. But dont for one minute think that the good ol nasty mudslinging doesnt happen both ways.
Ex.
Art deco claiming Weber is an alki and mentioning how he works at the club. How does he know? Is Art a drinking buddy? What is the purpose of stating he works at a bar. Answer: To BELITTLE
Another one
A lady wrote an opinion piece in the daily news about two weeks ago mentioning how she won't vote for Weber or Brown because of "these" obnoxious signs around town. How all the money raised by the GMA is being wasted on signs. Low and behold the facts come out showing that Chaney has made more money along with Reese raising more than Weber. Also, Chaney having the samne size signs all throughout Moscow.
Lastly for the night
You
"This is why the radical right movement is such a joke. They promote
the view that government is out of touch and corrupt yet their
candidate for mayor needs a third party to communicate and their state
senator likes to circumvent the democratic process with last minute
stunts, like this weekend's letter".
Along with referring to our city council as "joke radicals". Care to explain?
Your last page excuse, mentioning how you never said they are radicals, looks weird to me from the above statements.
Joe can you imagine if I said the radical left movement on this site. But then again I wouldn't do that. Just like I don't expect that from you.
Take care
MD
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From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:20:10 -0800
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Give me a break! What exactly has anyone from the left done that I have complained about? Give ONE example? There is none.
Again, what IS radical if circumventing the Democratic process is not? And if you've been paying attention, it wasn't the first time. It is a regular occurence. What IS radical if having connections with a group on the Southern Poverty Law Center watch list is not?
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:
So why not complain when the left does it Joe? Don't tell me they don't.
Both sides do and I don't agree with it. But, to label Gary as a radical, is a little far fetched in my opinion.
Gotta work
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From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:46:04 -0800
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
Another thing: if circumventing the Democratic process is not radical enough, what is?
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On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:11 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Ok. So is he radical?
M
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From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:54:38 -0800
CC: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Matt,
He quoted the sitting mayor from a confidential letter leaked on Dale Courtney's website. At least that was the source according to his website when I checked it this morning.
He also quoted Nancy out of context. And he did it all while hiding his source. Why did he hide the source? Well one reason is that we'd figure out the quote was out of context. You guess the other reason.
I'm for information, not distortion. That's democracy for me. Give me the info and I'll decide. And when my guy resorts to this sort of crap, I tell him to hit the road.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Not so sure Schroeder is radical right. Do you think he is in the same as Limbaugh and Hannity?
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:03:38 -0800
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>
> This is why the radical right movement is such a joke. They promote
> the view that government is out of touch and corrupt yet their
> candidate for mayor needs a third party to communicate and their state
> senator likes to circumvent the democratic process with last minute
> stunts, like this weekend's letter.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:26 PM, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> > Bottom line, Wayne . . .
> >
> > If the mayor is not accessible by the people, how is that mayor
> > going to
> > represent those people?
> >
> > Mayor Chaney responds to public email inquiries regularly.
> >
> > Here it is the night before election day and the people of Moscow
> > don't
> > even know if John Weber even checks his email.
> >
> > Why does John Weber respond to the people of Moscow, DURING HIS
> > ELECTION
> > CAMPAIGN, through a third party (Greg Kimberling)?
> >
> > If John Weber is elected mayor, will Greg Kimberling be Mayor Weber's
> > communication link with the people of Moscow?
> >
> > Seeya at the polls, Moscow.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
> > change
> > and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> >
> > - Unknown
> >
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