[Vision2020] Online Audio of Military Scholar Dyer's Interviews For "Climate Wars"
Ted Moffett
starbliss at gmail.com
Mon May 11 03:14:18 PDT 2009
A careful reader of military scholar Gwynne Dyer's book "Climate Wars"
will be impressed with the in depth interviews with a long list of well
credentialed figures. Indeed, the book is held together with these
interviews, the actual wording of which is included at intervals within
Dyer's text. Whether you agree or disagree with Dyer's basic conclusions
regarding the problems of anthropogenic climate change, he has assembled an
impressive army of military career scholars, scientists, and researchers to
illuminate his analysis, who are not merely quoted from a publication or
lecture, but agreed to an "in person" interview. The interviews are
referenced below.
I am now listening to the interview with Stefan Rahmstorf, one of the
primary contributors to the climate science discussion and information
website, http://www.realclimate.org , who heads the Earth System Analysis
department at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Change Impact, and is
Professor of the Physics of the Oceans at Potsdam University:
http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews.htm
*Note to Readers, this page is being updated in bits and pieces until all 30
plus interviews are posted. Thanks for your patience.*
*A notice from GWYNNE DYER: THESE INTERVIEWS were all conducted during my
research for the CBC radio series “Climate Wars”, broadcast in January,
2009, and excepts from them appear in my book of the same name. There was a
problem with the sound in a number of them which was rectified for the
broadcasts, but remains on these unedited recordings, some of which will
therefore sound “hot”. My apologies.*
*JOHN HOLDREN <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Holdren.mp3>*
John P. Holdren is Professor of Environmental Policy at Harvard University
and the director of the Woods Hole Research Center. He recently served a
year as chairman of the board of directors of the American Association for
the Advancement of Science, one of the highest honours in the American
scientific community, and he is certainly one of the cleverest men I have
met in a long time. President Barack Obama has chosen Holdren to be
Assistant to the President for Science and Technology and director of the
White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. This is very good
news. I interviewed Holdren at Woods Hole, MA on 8 February, 2008.
*DENNIS BUSHNELL <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Bushnell.mp3> DENNIS
BUSHNELL2 <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Bushnell2.mp3>*
Dennis M. Bushnell is Chief Scientist, NASA Langley Research Center, in
Hampton, Virginia. He is also one of the most fertile thinkers about
technological near futures and their political and social implications that
I have ever met. I interviewed him in Fredericksburg, VA on 22 January,
2008.
AUBREY MEYER <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Aubrey%20Meyer.mp3>
Aubrey Meyer is a South African-born musician and composer who largely
abandoned his career in the late 1980s to address what he saw as the linked
issues of climate change and global equity. He founded the Global Commons
Institute to promote the strategy of “Contraction and Convergence,” which is
now central to much of the thinking about how to solve the North-South
deadlock in how to cut emissions. I interviewed him in his home in North
London on 15 January, 2008.
DONALD BRAMAN <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Braman.mp3>
Donald Braman is a professor at George Washington University Law School, but
he was originally trained as an anthropologist, and it shows in his research
style. He did some revealing research on how people ended up on different
sides on the issue of climate change. I interviewed him in Washington on 5
February, 2008.
LESTER BROWN <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Brown.mp3>
Lester Brown has been referred to as “the guru of the modern green
movement,” but he grew up on a farm and holds several degrees in
agricultural science. He founded Worldwatch, the first major public policy
institute to concentrate on the environment and later on climate change, in
1974. He now heads the Earth Policy Institute in Washington, DC. His most
recent book is “Plan B 3.0: Mobilizing to Save Civilization.” I interviewed
him in Washington on 30 January, 2008.
WILLIAM CHANDLER <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Chandler.mp3>
Bill Chandler is a respected expert on energy and security with 32 years
experience in a variety of institutes and in government service. He also
lectures at Johns Hopkins University. He was working at the Carnegie
Endowment for International Peace when I interviewed him in Washington on 29
January, 2008.
ARTUR CHILINGAROV <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Chilingarov.mp3>
Artur Chilingarov is a celebrated polar explorer who is Vladimir Putin’s
personal adviser on Arctic affairs. He also a politician, and served as
deputy chairman of the last Duma. He led the expedition that planted the
Russian flag on the Arctic seabed at the North Pole in 2007. I interviewed
him in Moscow on 23 April, 2008.
CHRIS ABBOTT <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Chris%20Abbott.mp3>
Chris Abbott is the deputy director of the Oxford Research Group and
director of its Moving Towards Sustainable Security programme. His most
recent publications include “Beyond Terror: The Truth About the Real Threats
to Our World” (2007), and “An Uncertain Future: Law Enforcement, National
Security and Climate Change” (2008), both from ORG. I interviewed him in
London on 26 March, 2008.
WILLIAM CLINE <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Cline.mp3>
Bill Cline is a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International
Economics in Washington. He is an expert in agricultural economics in
developing countries, and wrote “Global Warming and Agriculture: Impact
Estimates by Country” in 2007. I interviewed him in Washington on 4
February, 2008.
GEOFF DABELKO <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Dabelko.mp3>
Geoff Dabelko is the director of the Environmental Change and Security
Program at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington. I interviewed him on 3
February, 2008.
ALEXANDER DUBIN <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Dubin.mp3>
Alexander Dubin was an adviser to Vladimir Putin and to the head of the
Duma. He currently presents a television current affairs show. I
interviewed him in Moscow on 21 April, 2008.
ALEX EVANS <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Evans.mp3>
Alex Evans is a London-based associate of the Center on International
Cooperation at New York University. He’s working on food security now, but
he’s also good on the history of public opinion about climate change. I
interviewed him in London on 20 January, 2008.
LEON FUERTH <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Fuerth.mp3>
Leon Fuerth is a research professor at the Elliott School of International
Affairs at George Washington University. He is a former diplomat and was
national security adviser to former Vice-President Al Gore. He wrote the
30-year bad outcome chapter for the Center for Strategic and International
Studies’s groundbreaking study on the political and strategic implications
of climate change, “The Age of Consequences.” I interviewed him in
Washington on 5 February, 2008.
SHERRI GOODMAN <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Goodman.mp3>
Sherri Goodman is General Counsel at the Center for Naval Analysis (CNA
Corporation) in Alexandria, VA. She was deputy under-secretary of defense
for environmental security in the Clinton administration. As executive
director of CNA’s Defense Advisory Board, she supervised the production of
the 2007 report by eleven retired American generals and admirals, “National
Security and the Threat of Climate Change.” I interviewed her in Alexandria
on 4 February, 2008.
JAY GULLEDGE <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Gulledge_2.mp3>
Jay Gulledge is the Senior Scientist and Program Manager for Science and
Impacts at the Pew Center on Global Climate Change in Arlington, VA. He
provided the climate change scenarios that were the point of departure for
the major report by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, “The
Age of Consequences.” I interviewed him in Arlington on 31 January, 2008.
JAMES HANSEN <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Hansen.mp3>
HANSEN2<http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Hansen%20(2).mp3>
Jim Hansen is the director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies in
New York. He was one of the first scientists to go public about the danger
of climate change, in a famous speech to the US Congress in 1988, and
remains one of the leading voices in the field. He recently published
research which suggests that the maximum allowable concentration of carbon
dioxide that we can allow to remain in the atmosphere over the long term, if
we don’t want all the ice on the planet to melt, may be as low as 350 ppm.
We are now nearing 390 ppm. I interviewed him in Tallberg, Sweden on 28
June, 2008.
THOMAS HOMER-DIXON <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Homer-Dixon.mp3>
Tad Homer-Dixon holds the Innovation Chair of Global Systems at the
Balsillie School of International Affairs and is a Professor in the Centre
for Environment and Business in the Faculty of Environment, both at the
University of Waterloo. He has led several research projects studying the
links between environmental stress and violence in developing countries, now
focuses on how societies adapt to complex economic, ecological, and
technological change. His latest book is “The Upside of Down: Catastrophe,
Creativity, and the Renewal of Civilization” (2006). I interviewed him in
Toronto on 4 April 2008.
DAVID KEITH <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Keith.mp3>
KEITH2<http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Keith2.mp3>
David Keith is the director of the ISEEE Energy and Environmental Systems
Group and holds the Canada Research Chair in Energy and the Environment at
the University of Calgary. He has been working “near the interface between
climate science, energy technology and public policy for twenty years.” He
is an outspoken advocate of research in geo-engineering techniques and an
active experimenter on technologies for removing carbon dioxide from the
atmosphere directly. I interviewed him in Calgary on 2 May 2008.
MICHAEL KLARE <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Klare.mp3>
Michael Klare is the defence correspondent for “The Nation” and Five
Colleges Professor of Peace and World Security Studies at Hampshire College
in Amherst, MA. He is well connected in military circles in Washington
despite the rather left-wing leanings (within the American spectrum) of “The
Nation.” I interviewed him in Amherst on 10 February, 2008.
ALEXEI KOKORIN <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Kokorin.mp3>
Alexei Kokorin is the director of the World Wildlife Fund’s branch in
Russia. Although environmental activism in Russia has taken a beating in
Russia in recent years because people were busy just surviving, it still
survives and the traditional environmental causes (like those of the WWF)
still command broad support. However, awareness of and concern about climate
change is at a very low level. I interviewed him in Moscow on 22 April.
NICK MABEY <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Mabey.mp3>
Nick Mabey is the founding director and chief executive of E3G, a
consultancy based in London, Berlin and Brussels that concentrates on energy
and climate security issues. Until 2005 he was a senior advisor in the UK
Prime Minister’s Strategy Unit, and before that he was Head of Sustainable
Development in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. I interviewed him in
London on 14 April 2008.
GERRY PROTTI <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Protti-Demchuk.mp3>
PROTTI2 <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Protti-Demchuk2.mp3>
Gerry Protti is Executive VP Corporate Relations and President, Offshore and
International, of the EnCana Corporation, a large Western Canadian oil and
gas company. Encana runs one of only three carbon dioxide sequestration
operations in the world at its oil-field in Weyburn, Saskatchewan. Mark
Demchuk, the team leader of the Weyburn operation, also took part in the
interview. I interviewed them in Calgary on 1 May, 2008.
PAUL ROGERS <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Rogers.mp3>
Paul Rogers is the head of the Department of Peace Studies at Bradford
University, and one of my favourite analysts on security issues ranging from
terrorism to climate change. I interviewed him in London on 10 April, 2008.
HANS-JOACHIM SCHELLNHUBER<http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Schellnhuber.mp3>
Hans Schnellhuber is the director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate
Impact Research (PIK), and a leading climate scientist in his own right. He
is the climate change adviser to Chancellor Angela Merkel, and is heavily
involved in the international negotiations for a successor to the Kyoto
accord. I interviewed him in Potsdam on 28 March, 2008.
BRITTON STEVENS <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Stevens%201.mp3>
STEVENS2 <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Stevens2.mp3>
Britton Stevens is a young climate scientist who works at the Research
Aviation Facility of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in
Boulder, CO. This is one of the hands-on researchers who flies “campaigns”
in various parts of the world sampling the atmosphere. I interviewed him at
the Rocky Mountain Metropolitan Airport in Broomfield, CO on 7 May, 2008.
ROBERT WATSON <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Watson.mp3>
Bob Watson was trained as a chemist, and has been studying atmospheric
pollution since the 1980s. He was Chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change (IPCC) from 1997 to 2002, but he was not re-elected after the
Bush administration effectively vetoed him. He has worked as Director of
the Science Division at NASA, Associate Director for Environment in the
Clinton administration, and as Director of the Environment Department at the
World Bank. He is currently Chief Scientific Adviser at the British
Government's Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) and
holds the Chair of Environmental Science at the University of East Anglia.
I interviewed him in London on 20 May, 2008.
JAMES MASLANIK <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Maslanik.mp3>
Jim Maslanik is a research professor at the University of Colorado at
Boulder who specialises in polar climatology. He is heavily involved in
studying the retreat of the summer sea ice in the Arctic Ocean. I
interviewed him in Boulder, CO on 8 May, 2008.
PATY ROMERO-LANKAO <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Romero-Lankao.mp3>
Paty Romero-Lankao is a Mexican sociologist who is deputy director of the
Institute for the Study of Society and Environment at the National Center
for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, CO. She has co-written reports on the
human impacts of climate change for the IPCC. I interviewed her in Boulder
on 7 May, 2008.
VANDANA SHIVA <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Shiva.mp3>
Vandana Shiva is one of India’s leading environmentalists, and makes a
particularly strong argument for the virtues of using traditional farming
methods rather than the techniques of industrial agriculture, especially if
food production is going to be stressed by climate change. She has a PhD in
physics from the University of Western Ontario and has done
interdisciplinary research in science, technology and environmental policy
at the Indian Institute of Science and the Indian Institute of Management in
Bangalore, but her main focus now is on sustainable agriculture. I
interviewed her in London on 18 March, 2008.
SIR CRISPIN TICKELL <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Tickell.mp3>
Crispin Tickell is a former British diplomat who began to take an interest
in the security implications of climate change in the 1970s, and published
one of the first book on the subject, “Climate Change and World Affairs,” in
1977. He was a key player in the conspiracy of scientists who persuaded
Margaret Thatcher to take climate change seriously in the 1980s (which led
directly to the creation of the Hadley Centre in 1990, and indirectly to the
signature of the Framework Convention on Climate Change in 1992). He ended
his diplomatic career as British Ambassador to the United Nations, and is
now the director of the director of the Policy Foresight Programme of the
James Martin Institute for Science and Civilization at Oxford University. I
interviewed him in London on 3 July, 2008.
AMORY LOVINS <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Lovins.mp3>
Amory Lovins is the great American apostle of energy conservation, and his
Rocky Mountain Institute has been a font of innovation in energy-saving
techniques for several decades. He has been making the “long march through
the institutions” for most of his life, and he is as welcome in the Pentagon
and in the automobile and aviation industries as he is in green circles. I
interviewed him in Denver on 7 May, 2008.
ADMIRAL DENNY McGINN <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/McGinn.mp3>
Denny McGinn ended his naval career as a vice-admiral and Deputy Chief of
Naval Operations for Warfighting Requirements and Programs. He subsequently
led the energy, transportation and environment division at the Battelle
Memorial Institute, the world’s largest nonprofit independent research and
development organization, and now heads the RemoteReality Corp. He is also
a senior policy advisor to the American Council on Renewable Energy and a
senior fellow at the Rocky Mountain Institute. I interviewed him in
Washington on 31 January, 2008.
STEFAN RAHMSTORF <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Rahmstorf.mp3>
Stefan Rahmstorf is an oceanographer and climatologist who heads the Earth
System Analysis department at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Change
Impact. He is also Professor of the Physics of the Oceans at Potsdam
University. He is also a very clear thinker. I interviewed him in Potsdam
on 25 April.
MANIK ROY <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Roy.mp3>
Manik Roy is Director of Congressional Affairs at the Pew Center on Global
Climate Change in Washington. He is immensely knowledgeable about the
workings of the US Congress and its deeply ambivalent attitude. I
interviewed him in Washington on 31 January, 2008.
ANATOLII TSYGANOK <http://www.gwynnedyer.com/interviews/Tsyganok.mp3>
Anatolii Tsyganok is a colonel recently retired from the Russian army whose
interest and ability in strategic matters has brought him a position at the
Centre for Military Forecasting and membership of the General Council of the
Russian Defence Ministry. I interviewed him in Moscow on 23 April, 2008.
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