[Vision2020] love letters or a desperate cry for attention?

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Fri May 1 06:06:56 PDT 2009


You left the racist headlines out, even though I gave you a handout!

Joe Campbell

On May 1, 2009, at 6:00 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Whose memory needs a tune up?
>
> A very small sample from the November '08 archive. Topics which any  
> reasonable person would have to agree were timely, contained  
> information that was pertinent to the discussion, and were not ad  
> hominem attacks on any member of this forum.
>
>
> [Vision2020] Murdoch says Obama win could worsen financial crisis:  
> report   No Weatherman
> [Vision2020] Obama's New Attack on Those Who Don't Want Higher  
> Taxes: ‘Selfishness’   No Weatherman
> [Vision2020] Obama aunt from Kenya living in US illegally   No  
> Weatherman
> [Vision2020] Obama says he didn't know aunt's illegal status — and h 
> e still has not proven his own “natural born citizen” status   No  
> Weatherman
> [Vision2020] $800,000 to ACORN — $700,000 for stage props: CHANGE YO 
> U CAN BELIEVE IN   No Weatherman
> [Vision2020] Has Obama Overplayed the Race Card?   No  Weatherman
> [Vision2020] Obama's Hug-a-Thug Crime Policy   No Weatherman
> [Vision2020] crowd boos Obama   No Weatherman
> [Vision2020] Everything You Wanted to Know About the Obama Online  
> Fundraising Scandal in Less Than 5 Minutes!   No Weatherman
> [Vision2020] Obama’s homies (Black Panthers) intimidating whites at  
> the polls   No Weatherman
>
> Perhaps you could check with "bear." He apparently knows some brain  
> mechanics in Spokane who could help you with your selective memory.
>
> g
> From: Joe Campbell
> To: g. crabtree
> Cc: Gray Tree Crab aka Big Bertha ; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] love letters or a desperate cry for  
> attention?
>
> Yipes your memory is bad. You should get that checked!
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:26 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> My recollection is that at that time we were discussing OBL (at  
>> that time still BHO) and the upcoming election. Weather guy was  
>> providing, among other things, selected items of      interest from  
>> a variety of sources, many of which you seemed to find  
>> uncomfortable but which were very much on topic. I'm not sure what  
>> "ad hominems" you might be referring to but if there's anything  
>> I've learned over the years on this list it's that you've precious  
>> little aversion to sacrificing accuracy for expediency and that you  
>> often mistake a view point you disagree with for an attack.
>>
>> g
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Joe Campbell
>> To: g. crabtree
>> Cc: Gray Tree Crab aka Big Bertha ; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] love letters or a desperate cry for  
>> attention?
>>
>> Right! I asked the same question when your friend was harrassing  
>> the V! Of course, at the time you seemed to think Dr. No's ad  
>> hominems were legit!
>>
>> Joe Campbell
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:59 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So why don't you explain for us the argument that matters in the  
>>> post in question? That said, I still believe that the sad and  
>>> lonely Bertha has the right to do what she does. Eventually she'll  
>>> meet someone nice and her obsession with me will wayne.
>>>
>>> g
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Joe Campbell
>>> To: g. crabtree
>>> Cc: Gray Tree Crab aka Big Bertha ; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] love letters or a desperate cry for  
>>> attention?
>>>
>>> Gary: Do you forget your defence of No Whetherman (hah, hah)?  
>>> I            think it was, Names don't matter, arguments do!
>>>
>>> Joe Campbell
>>>
>>> On Apr 29, 2009, at 5:46 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My Dearest Bertha,
>>>>
>>>> I get that you aren't interested in contributing to the discussion.
>>>>
>>>> I get that you are not swayed by my suave good looks and worldly  
>>>> charm.
>>>>
>>>> I get that my powerful intellect and rapier wit bounce off you  
>>>> seemingly unnoticed.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, I am coming to believe that you imagine you don't really  
>>>> care for me at all. (wink, wink)
>>>>
>>>> All of these things I can understand.
>>>>
>>>> What I can't understand is why you are frightened of me.
>>>>
>>>> The waifish Ms. Lund delights in spitting in my eye.
>>>>
>>>> The diminutive Ms. Mix gleefully reads me the riot act.
>>>>
>>>> The delicate Ms. Hovey never hesitates to point out my failings  
>>>> as she sees them.
>>>>
>>>> And all of them do it over their very own real life names.
>>>>
>>>> What could I have done to scare you into hiding?
>>>>
>>>> Many of my most vocal critics on this forum have actually spoken  
>>>> with me face to face and emerged none the worse for wear.
>>>>
>>>> What could I have done to cause you to cower so?
>>>>
>>>> What horror could I have inflicted on you that leaves you with no  
>>>> recourse but to hurl pitifully weak epithets from the safe harbor  
>>>> of anonymity?
>>>>
>>>> Or could it be that you simply yearn to be noticed?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> g
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Gray Tree Crab aka Big Bertha
>>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:17 AM
>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Habeas Corpus at Bagram
>>>>
>>>> The village locksmith said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "My goodness isn't the nascent little ambulance chaser cute when  
>>>> he gets all up on his hind legs and brays about how others should  
>>>> be ashamed?
>>>>
>>>> The reason that I don't "defend torture" is because that  I see  
>>>> no compelling need to. As I've said before, I do not believe that  
>>>> waterboarding is torture,                I do not believe that  
>>>> the previous administration had a policy promoting the use of  
>>>> torture, and  I don't think that your pretending to be the  
>>>> arbiter of all that is righteous, pure and holy necessitates my  
>>>> responding to every idle quack and query that's directed my way.
>>>>
>>>> Now how's about you knock it off with the phony shame routine and  
>>>> save it for closing arguments in kiddy court alright?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Before anyone criticizes the lonely locksmith over this only  
>>>> apparently puerile outburst, they need to understand the pressure  
>>>> he is under.
>>>>
>>>> His business is so busy that he is constantly on edge.  In fact,  
>>>> it is so busy that he may have to expand into the next door  
>>>> laundromat.  As one of the area's leading entrepreneurs and  
>>>> entrepreneurial philosophers, he is to be cheered for his daring  
>>>> and incisive business acumen in these hard times.
>>>>
>>>> He is our leader.  Cut him some slack if he seems irrational and  
>>>> childish.  He                is going where few dare to go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Gray Tree Crab aka "Big Bertha"
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