[Vision2020] Say What?

[Donovan Arnold]

Chas,
 
Most of those territories were taken by war, and then by treaty, including a good share of Mexico. Britain did not freely give us the Thirteen Colonies. The Midwestern states were taken in the French Indian War. And I don't recall hearing about any Eskimos signing any deal when Russia sold Alaska to the US. Mexico lost the Mexican American War, and signed a treaty giving us land north of the Rio Grande, and the US paid Mexico for the land. 
 
All land is taken by force from someone or something else. Mexico only had the US territories for about 20 years total time, which they stole from the Spanish, which stole it from the natives. There were also only about 20,000 people living in the area which the US took from Mexico. Many of the people elected to stay in the US and not all considered themselves Mexican citizens. I am not saying we were justified in taking the land, but we were not any more wrong than anyone else.
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan

--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:38 PM


On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:50, Donovan Arnold
<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Of course using Keely's logic, the Midwestern states belonged to Canada,
> Florida to Spain, the 13 original colonies to Britain, the Louisiana
> Territory to France, New York to the Dutch, Guam to Japan, and Alaska to
> Russia, maybe we should make all those countries de facto US Citizens!

Except that those other areas were acquired by treaty, outright sale,
and negotiation, whereas large the portions of the American Southwest
of which Keely speaks were stolen.

Disclaimer:  I am not a historian, nor do I pretend to be one.  The
above paragraph is extracted from the misty regions of my brain that
appear also to have been stolen, as I can conjure up no specifics.

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