[Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?

[Gier, Nicholas]

Hi Roger,

It is also possible that Sotomayor knows her own Catholic tradition well and realizes that the Church did not consider the abortion of a first trimester fetus murder until 1917.  Perhaps she also knows that two of the greatest minds of the Church--Augustine and Thomas Aquinas--did not believe that the early fetus was a person.  As I have argued endlessly on this list, their position has good scientific support.

Also it is possible that Sotomayor is a secret member of an organization called "Catholics for Free Choice," which points out all these significant historical facts.

Nick


-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com on behalf of Joe Campbell
Sent: Fri 6/5/2009 2:19 AM
To: lfalen
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
 
Roger,

You can be pro-life and also pro-choice. The issue is whether or not  
you are truely in favor of freedom of religion and thought and  
practice and are willing to accept that some folks don't share your  
narrow world view. Why not let them decide for themselves.

Joe Campbell

On Jun 4, 2009, at 10:44 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:

> I do not think that her views on abortion are well known. If turns  
> out that she is pro-life, I lot of you with the possible exception  
> of Keely will be less enthused with her appointment. It would be  
> ironic if she turned out to be the reverse of Souter on the abortion  
> issue.
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:41:37 -0700
> To: Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
>
>> Gender, racial or ethnic background may or may not be important in  
>> a choice
>> for a US Supreme Court justice, but it seems religious background  
>> is not a
>> major focus in the case of Sotomayor's nomination.
>>
>> And why is this issue not on the front page?  If she were Muslim,  
>> Hindu or
>> Atheist, the full force of the religious bias in the US body  
>> politic towards
>> a challenge to the Christian/Judaism monopoly on US politics would be
>> revealed, despite the claim of the religious right that  
>> Christianity is
>> being marginalized in government.  Religion is a dominant influence  
>> on
>> ideology that should be open to full critical rational fact based
>> discussion, as well as gender, racial or ethnic background.
>>
>> Article on Sotomayor's Catholic background:
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/us/politics/31catholics.html?ref=global-home
>> -------------------
>> Why is there not a single US Senator who declares themselves of  
>> another
>> religious background than Christian or Jewish, of one variety or  
>> another?
>> There are two US Senators who are "unspecified."  Now there's a  
>> faith for
>> you!
>>
>> http://www.adherents.com/adh_congress.html#109
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Affiliation_in_the_United_States_Senate
>>
>>> From website above:
>>
>> According to the data, no Senator falls under the category "No
>> Religion/Atheist/Agnostic" - a category embodied by 15.0% of the U.S.
>> population according to the 2001 Census.
>> -------------------
>> Religion is the most pervasive form of prejudice against a political
>> position (and despite what some might wish otherwise, US Supreme  
>> Court
>> justice nominations are very political in nature) in US politics,  
>> in the US
>> Senate or the presidency.  More than gender, race or ethnicity.
>>
>> No politician running for the US Senate or the presidency would  
>> stand a
>> chance if they openly declared themselves Atheist.
>>
>> Ted Moffett
>>
>>
>
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