[Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
g. crabtree
jampot at roadrunner.com
Fri Jun 5 06:12:25 PDT 2009
A very interesting view point! Lets apply it to a few areas of the church of
the "progressive" democrat party.
Instead of taking more and more money from the hard working tax payer to
redistribute to the layabouts why not let the citizens choose for themselves
when and where to send their charitable contributions?
Rather then making certain words and thoughts a crime, why not let citizens
think and speak as they will and reserve the might of the state for actual
actions that negatively impact others?
Why not let businesses and property owners do what they think is fitting and
proper with what is theirs (with reasonable and minimal constraint) and let
citizens decide for themselves if they would like to work for or patronize
the end result.
When it comes to choices such as these, your world view has proven to be a
smidge on the narrow side as well.
g
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
> Roger,
>
> You can be pro-life and also pro-choice. The issue is whether or not
> you are truely in favor of freedom of religion and thought and
> practice and are willing to accept that some folks don't share your
> narrow world view. Why not let them decide for themselves.
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On Jun 4, 2009, at 10:44 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
>
>> I do not think that her views on abortion are well known. If turns
>> out that she is pro-life, I lot of you with the possible exception
>> of Keely will be less enthused with her appointment. It would be
>> ironic if she turned out to be the reverse of Souter on the abortion
>> issue.
>> Roger
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com
>> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:41:37 -0700
>> To: Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
>>
>>> Gender, racial or ethnic background may or may not be important in
>>> a choice
>>> for a US Supreme Court justice, but it seems religious background
>>> is not a
>>> major focus in the case of Sotomayor's nomination.
>>>
>>> And why is this issue not on the front page? If she were Muslim,
>>> Hindu or
>>> Atheist, the full force of the religious bias in the US body
>>> politic towards
>>> a challenge to the Christian/Judaism monopoly on US politics would be
>>> revealed, despite the claim of the religious right that
>>> Christianity is
>>> being marginalized in government. Religion is a dominant influence
>>> on
>>> ideology that should be open to full critical rational fact based
>>> discussion, as well as gender, racial or ethnic background.
>>>
>>> Article on Sotomayor's Catholic background:
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/us/politics/31catholics.html?ref=global-home
>>> -------------------
>>> Why is there not a single US Senator who declares themselves of
>>> another
>>> religious background than Christian or Jewish, of one variety or
>>> another?
>>> There are two US Senators who are "unspecified." Now there's a
>>> faith for
>>> you!
>>>
>>> http://www.adherents.com/adh_congress.html#109
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Affiliation_in_the_United_States_Senate
>>>
>>>> From website above:
>>>
>>> According to the data, no Senator falls under the category "No
>>> Religion/Atheist/Agnostic" - a category embodied by 15.0% of the U.S.
>>> population according to the 2001 Census.
>>> -------------------
>>> Religion is the most pervasive form of prejudice against a political
>>> position (and despite what some might wish otherwise, US Supreme
>>> Court
>>> justice nominations are very political in nature) in US politics,
>>> in the US
>>> Senate or the presidency. More than gender, race or ethnicity.
>>>
>>> No politician running for the US Senate or the presidency would
>>> stand a
>>> chance if they openly declared themselves Atheist.
>>>
>>> Ted Moffett
>>>
>>>
>>
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