[Vision2020] NYTimes: In Search of Dignity

[B. J. Swanson]

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
Sent: July 09, 2009 6:54 AM
To: g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com>
Cc: Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: In Search of Dignity

This is the only reason you gave! That is not a leap of logic! I'm  
just trying to follow YOUR reasoning.  If you have other reasons, say  
what they are.

But that you can't accept the opinions of moderate members of your own  
party is telling, IMO.

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On Jul 9, 2009, at 6:49 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> David Brooks, on BHO, in his own words:
>
>  From an interview with The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg
>
> "... I was dazzled, I felt the tingle up my knee as Chris Matthews  
> would say."
>
>  So, the fact that I don't find David Brooks as conservative as I  
> might prefer, it follows that the litmus test for true conservatism  
> must be hatred of the president? Another leap of logic that, as you  
> never tire of reminding us, only a professional master of the  
> subject could make.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joe Campbell
> To: g. crabtree
> Cc: the lockshop ; Vision 2020
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: In Search of Dignity
>
> Brooks thinks that Obama is a model of dignity. He's not in awe of  
> Obama he just thinks he has dignity. So that makes him NOT a  
> conservative!?!? It seems to follow that you have to hate Obama to  
> be a true conservative. That is extreme, too extreme to appeal to  
> the majority of voters.
>
> I might have stated the obvious but somehow you still don't get it!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:16 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Oh yes, I read the article. I would have      thought that almost  
>> anyone who has followed Mr. Brooks' career would be well aware of  
>> why I might have used the descriptives that I did. Sorry if you're  
>> new to the subject.
>>
>> Regarding the most recent elective outcomes, thank you so very much  
>> for your emphatic statement of the all too obvious. You have  
>> finally found an area at which you might truly excel! Since Brooks  
>> seems to stand in awe of your deity of the moment, it really seems  
>> inappropriate to refer to him as conservative, moderate or  
>> otherwise and it wouldn't seem to matter much to me whether he's  
>> offended or not. As a BHO supplicant, he's part of the problem and  
>> none of the solution.
>>
>> g
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Joe Campbell
>> To: the lockshop
>> Cc: Vision 2020
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:57        AM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: In Search of Dignity
>>
>> Did you read the Huffington Post article, Crabtree? It was pretty  
>> funny but I don't see any mention of Brooks being a "liberal  
>> lapdog" or having "quasi-conservative credentials." Where did you  
>> get that from? Maybe he's not offensive or narrow-minded enough to  
>> fit your definition!
>>
>> But guess what? Repubican's LOST the last election for the White  
>> House and Democrats now have a super-majority in congress. So you  
>> might consider not offending the few moderate conservatives who  
>> haven't jumped the sinking ship. Or perhaps not! Palin in 2012!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:42 PM, "the lockshop"  
>> <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On becoming a liberal lap dog with quasi-conservative credentials.  
>>> From the huffington post:
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-hanft/become-david-brooks-in-an_b_227346.html
>>>
>>> g
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Joe Campbell
>>> To: Vision 2020
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:09 PM
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] NYTimes: In            Search of Dignity
>>>
>>> From The New York Times:
>>>
>>> OP-ED COLUMNIST: In Search of Dignity
>>> By DAVID BROOKS
>>>
>>>
>>> The old dignity code that George Washington once followed has not  
>>> survived modern life. Every week there are new scandals featuring  
>>> people who simply do not know how to act....
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/opinion/07brooks.html
>>>
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