[Vision2020] Papal Forgiveness

Campbell, Joseph josephc at wsu.edu
Fri Jan 16 12:58:43 PST 2009


Dear Keely,

 

Desecration of Communion is desecration of God, according to these
Catholics. Again, I don't believe this and you don't but the question is
whether it is inappropriate for someone to think that desecration of God
is the worst kind of sin. I don't think it is in appropriate. There is
really nothing new here, nothing different from Chas's first set of
remarks. He finds the thought of genuine Communion to be absurd. Well,
good for him. He is not alone. Donovan finds Chas's atheism to be
absurd, too, and I don't appreciate Donovan's insulting remarks about
Chas's beliefs any more than I do Chas's insulting remarks about
Catholics. I'm neither a Catholic or an atheist but I have friends and
family in both camps and it bothers me that their beliefs are discussed
in such a flippant, insulting way.

 

I find the whole idea of taking bits and pieces of someone's fundamental
beliefs out of context and making fun of them to be a worthless
exercise. It is offensive and as far as I can tell of no good
whatsoever. Why stop with Catholics? Why not find comments from other
religions - Mormons, Muslims, Jews - that we can take out of context and
make fun of? And what do we gain from this exercise? I just don't get
it.

 

Any fundamental claim about the world - religious, philosophical, or
whatever - looks odd to those who don't accept. That is just the way
that fundamental claims work. Going to the trouble to point out the
oddness serves no useful end, as far as I can see. Ultimately it leaves
us all open to the same kind of pointless ridicule.

 

Best, Joe

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of keely emerinemix
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:12 PM
To: Charles Warren; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Papal Forgiveness

 

I think I'm with Chas on this one.  A little perspective, please!

Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/




> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:38:42 -0800
> From: chasuk at gmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Papal Forgiveness
> 
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28663430/
> 
> This just in:
> 
> "Confessions of . . . sins . . . such as genocide or mass murder . . .
> [are] handled at the local level by priests and their bishops"
> 
> However for the REALLY heinous sins, only the pope can grant
absolution.
> 
> Which sins are this grave, you wonder?
> 
> Well, for example, only the pope can absolve those "who receive
> Communion and then remove the host from their mouths and spit it out
> or otherwise desecrate it," this article reports.
> 
> So spitting out a wafer is worse than genocide?
> 
> *Chas's head explodes*
> 
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