[Vision2020] Family-Friendly Activities (was U of I Program Cuts)

Thu Jan 15 15:24:50 PST 2009

Darrell,

You obviously don't know me well if you don't know I have lived in many cities, half in Idaho. I am pointing out why students don't stay in Moscow. Obviously, the people that stay in Moscow find it to their perfect likely. 

But the issue is, if you want people to come here, UI and the city to do well, I would focus on the positive things you can do to improve that situation. Not make excuses as why we cannot, or shouldn't do anything to help other people out.

Best Regards,

Donovan

--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Family-Friendly Activities (was U of I Program Cuts)
To: "Jennifer Ingalls" <jennifer at inlandradio.com>
Cc: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 11:19 AM

Donovan:

Have you ever lived anywhere outside of Moscow?  Especially in a
similarly sized community?  I have, several different places in fact,
and I'm willing to bet you have not.  For the size town it is, Moscow
has an impressive list of things for families to do.  And, despite
your incessant carping, a decent range of salaries, too.  The key is
that you have to compare apples to apples.

Instead of listing what you think the town doesn't have, maybe you
should try being positive for a change.  Perhaps the listserv will
help you come up with a list of things to do in town.  I'll start:
Great restaurants
Nice parks
Several art galleries
What can you add, V2020?

> From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:30 AM
> To: 'vision 2020'; Jennifer Ingalls
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Family-Friendly Activities (was U of I Program
> Cuts)
>
>
>
> Jennifer,
>
>
>
> I liked doing all those things too as a child in Moscow. But lets face it,
> there is only so some many times you can visit the McConnell Mansion
before
> it no longer entertaining to a child. And camping doesn't count
because you
> have to leave Moscow to go do it.
>
>
>
> If you are an outdoors type of person, there are lots of things to do in
> North Idaho. But for many people that are not, it leaves something to be
> desired.
>
>
>
> One of the biggest complaints I heard from students was that there was
> nothing to do in Moscow, and why so many people supported the Student
> Recreation Building, which is more like a glorified and over priced Idaho
> Athletic Club with a climbing wall then a recreation center for different
> kinds of recreational activities.
>
>
>
> I do not think I have found a mother at UI that thought Moscow's
daycare was
> inexpensive. There is a huge waiting list too.
>
>
>
> What few things there are to do in Moscow, also cost a lot of money, which
> is hard to afford when you have no money, because there are no jobs that
pay
> above what you need to scrape by.
>
>
>
> There is less to do in Moscow now then was when my Mother was child in
> Moscow.
>
>
>
> We have no bowling alley. We have no roller skating ring. We have no IMax
> Theater. We have fewer quality restaurants. We have no high tech gaming
> center. We have no science discovery park, we have no big museums. No race
> cars. No theme parks, no big fancy hangouts, we don't even really have
a
> year round swimming pool,
>
>
>
> The best thing Moscow has for entertainment is the Library. Which is a
great
> library, but hardly the place that comes to mind when we want to think
about
> entertainment.
>
>
>
> Yes, you can always THINK of something to do in Moscow, but that is the
> problem, you really have to THINK, to find something to do. Its Midnight
in
> Moscow, besides the bars and the Jack N the Crack drive-thru, what is
open?
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Donovan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Jennifer Ingalls <jennifer at inlandradio.com>
wrote:
>
> From: Jennifer Ingalls <jennifer at inlandradio.com>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Family-Friendly Activities (was U of I Program Cuts)
> To: "'vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 1:27 PM
>
> I don't necessarily want to get into the argument about diversity in
Moscow
> or at UI, but I do take some issue with Donovan's statement, "Not
to mention
> the lack of affordable child care, or family fun activities."
>
>
>
> I grew up in Moscow and though my family had more money than families
where
> a student is the primary financier of the household, we were not at a loss
> for family-friendly free activities (unless we were willfully bored). This
> is not to say that we can't do better as a community at providing free
> and/or inexpensive activities, but I think many of us forget those things
> that are available to us. For example, I –regretfully—cannot remember
the
> last time I went to the McConnell Mansion or picked up a walking tour
guide
> of the towns history and hoofed it through Fort Russell (two activities
that
> occupied Spring and Summer days of my youth). The library (which I
remember
> as only being the old part of the building) was cool in the Summer and
warm
> in the Winter. Organizations like Campfire, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts and
> local churches provided the three of us a lot of fun and educational
> activities (both our family's church of choice and the churches or
religious
> organizations of friends). My mom used to take us to Good Sam to
distribute
> our wares after craft days at the house. We'd ride bikes out to
Robinson
> Lake Park , "fish" in Hordeman's pond, or take advantage of
all the
> demonstrations, concerts and educational lectures the University offered.
> There were a lot of things to do!
>
>
>
> I'll grant that I was a nerdy kid (still am). I, too, would love to
see more
> activities available after school that would appeal to "at risk"
youth (I AM
> doing something about that with my involvement in Latah County Youth
> Advocacy Council), but I don't think can jump on board with the whole
> "there's nothing to do here" claim.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jennifer L. Ingalls
>
>
>
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