[Vision2020] [OFF LIST] Family-Friendly Activities (was U of I
Tom Hansen
thansen at moscow.com
Thu Jan 15 11:41:20 PST 2009
Oops. Sorry. Or am I?
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
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> Very well put, Mr. Keim.
>
> I was tempted to say something to Arnold along those lines. But I was
> afraid that profanity would get the better (or lesser) part of me.
>
> My wife grew up here in Moscow, attended MHS and went on to UI in the
mid-
> 60s.
>
> Trust me when I say that while she was attending MHS, she and her high
> school peers found plenty of legal and ethical fashions to entertain
> themselves. They didn't sit on their hind honches waiting for somebody
> to "spoon feed" them entertainment.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow
>
> > Donovan:
> >
> > Have you ever lived anywhere outside of Moscow? Especially in a
> > similarly sized community? I have, several different places in fact,
> > and I'm willing to bet you have not. For the size town it is, Moscow
> > has an impressive list of things for families to do. And, despite
> > your incessant carping, a decent range of salaries, too. The key is
> > that you have to compare apples to apples.
> >
> > Instead of listing what you think the town doesn't have, maybe you
> > should try being positive for a change. Perhaps the listserv will
> > help you come up with a list of things to do in town. I'll start:
> > Great restaurants
> > Nice parks
> > Several art galleries
> > What can you add, V2020?
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:30 AM
> > > To: 'vision 2020'; Jennifer Ingalls
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Family-Friendly Activities (was U of I
> Program
> > > Cuts)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jennifer,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I liked doing all those things too as a child in Moscow. But lets
face
> it,
> > > there is only so some many times you can visit the McConnell Mansion
> before
> > > it no longer entertaining to a child. And camping doesn't count
> because you
> > > have to leave Moscow to go do it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you are an outdoors type of person, there are lots of things to
do
> in
> > > North Idaho. But for many people that are not, it leaves something
to
> be
> > > desired.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > One of the biggest complaints I heard from students was that there
was
> > > nothing to do in Moscow, and why so many people supported the Student
> > > Recreation Building, which is more like a glorified and over priced
> Idaho
> > > Athletic Club with a climbing wall then a recreation center for
> different
> > > kinds of recreational activities.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I do not think I have found a mother at UI that thought Moscow's
> daycare was
> > > inexpensive. There is a huge waiting list too.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What few things there are to do in Moscow, also cost a lot of money,
> which
> > > is hard to afford when you have no money, because there are no jobs
> that pay
> > > above what you need to scrape by.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There is less to do in Moscow now then was when my Mother was child
in
> > > Moscow.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We have no bowling alley. We have no roller skating ring. We have no
> IMax
> > > Theater. We have fewer quality restaurants. We have no high tech
gaming
> > > center. We have no science discovery park, we have no big museums.
No
> race
> > > cars. No theme parks, no big fancy hangouts, we don't even really
have
> a
> > > year round swimming pool,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The best thing Moscow has for entertainment is the Library. Which is
a
> great
> > > library, but hardly the place that comes to mind when we want to
think
> about
> > > entertainment.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, you can always THINK of something to do in Moscow, but that is
the
> > > problem, you really have to THINK, to find something to do. Its
> Midnight in
> > > Moscow, besides the bars and the Jack N the Crack drive-thru, what
is
> open?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Donovan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Jennifer Ingalls <jennifer at inlandradio.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Jennifer Ingalls <jennifer at inlandradio.com>
> > > Subject: [Vision2020] Family-Friendly Activities (was U of I Program
> Cuts)
> > > To: "'vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 1:27 PM
> > >
> > > I don't necessarily want to get into the argument about diversity in
> Moscow
> > > or at UI, but I do take some issue with Donovan's statement, "Not to
> mention
> > > the lack of affordable child care, or family fun activities."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I grew up in Moscow and though my family had more money than
families
> where
> > > a student is the primary financier of the household, we were not at
a
> loss
> > > for family-friendly free activities (unless we were willfully
bored).
> This
> > > is not to say that we can't do better as a community at providing
free
> > > and/or inexpensive activities, but I think many of us forget those
> things
> > > that are available to us. For example, I regretfullycannot
remember
> the
> > > last time I went to the McConnell Mansion or picked up a walking
tour
> guide
> > > of the towns history and hoofed it through Fort Russell (two
> activities that
> > > occupied Spring and Summer days of my youth). The library (which I
> remember
> > > as only being the old part of the building) was cool in the Summer
and
> warm
> > > in the Winter. Organizations like Campfire, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts
and
> > > local churches provided the three of us a lot of fun and educational
> > > activities (both our family's church of choice and the churches or
> religious
> > > organizations of friends). My mom used to take us to Good Sam to
> distribute
> > > our wares after craft days at the house. We'd ride bikes out to
> Robinson
> > > Lake Park , "fish" in Hordeman's pond, or take advantage of all the
> > > demonstrations, concerts and educational lectures the University
> offered.
> > > There were a lot of things to do!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll grant that I was a nerdy kid (still am). I, too, would love to
> see more
> > > activities available after school that would appeal to "at risk"
youth
> (I AM
> > > doing something about that with my involvement in Latah County Youth
> > > Advocacy Council), but I don't think can jump on board with the whole
> > > "there's nothing to do here" claim.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jennifer L. Ingalls
> > >
> > >
> > >
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