[Vision2020] U of I Program Cuts

Wed Jan 14 10:52:05 PST 2009

I don't know the exact number, but in a list I saw a year ago there were at least a half a dozen in human rights and diversity. I don't mean to be picking on just this area, they are just examples. The point is cuts and layoffs should start with administrators. If you cut programs, it only stands to reason that you need fewer administrators. The University Soils Team probably won't be able to go to the national Contest this year. They usually raise what money they can and the department matches it. This year there will be no matching funds. It will cost about $4000. My wife is selling some things on ebay to raise money for them. It would not hurt the professors and administrators to personally kick in some.
Mo-  I agree that diversity is inherent around us and should not be discriminated against, I realize that in some case it still is.
I will give you a two cases of people with problems who  have excelled. Temple Grandlin ia artistic. She was the chairman of the Animal Science Department at Ft. Collins Co. She has written extensively in scientific journals and also a book about her autism. There is a young lady at Orifino who has Downs Syndrome. She is a junior 4-H leader and plays the piano. She usually wins an   award each year. They were not just given to her, She earned them. Feel free to explain the program.
Roger
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From: Mo Hendrickson hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:24:43 -0800
To: lfalen at turbonet.com,  godshatter at yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] U of I Program Cuts

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> Roger-  
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> I can't speak to development or the ombuds office, since I don't work in those areas.  But how many Human Rights Administrators do you think UI has?  Again this is a serious non-rhetorical question.
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> As to diversity, we are obviously working from two entirely different definitions.  The definition you gave in your last email was the condition of being different, which if you go to the dictionary you sited it is actually the condition of being diverse, while similar the two words have separate meanings. For me diversity is more than bringing different skin colors to campus, more than increasing the number of women, more than sitting down at an international banquet to eat food from around the world.  It is more than a business tactic or an educational model.  Diversity is inherent in the world around us, I work in an office that puts numbers on diversity, so I know how difficult it can be to separate diversity from the desire to quantify and measure.  And it is hard to put into words how much larger the images of diversity are.  
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> I agree that we should all play from a level field and merit should be the only deciding factor, but unfortunately our system, the USA not just UI is not set-up that way.  While inequality still exists, there will be programs to help those who need the help.  If you would like me to explain how the UI system works I would be more than happy to, but I will wait until asked.  
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> -Mo
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> > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:31:52 -0800> From: lfalen at turbonet.com> To: godshatter at yahoo.com> CC: hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu; vision2020 at moscow.com> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] U of I Program Cuts> > This has been done before and probably should be done again.I don't think that will be enough to solve the problem. There are administrators we could do with out. There should be only one Human Rights Administrator, with and assistant and a secretary. I don't know abut other colleges but the Agricultural College has a development administrator. Why have the duplication. One should be enough. The Ombudsman position should be eliminated. They only run interference for the University and do not really help anyone. This should be handled by and outside impartial party. There are undoubtedly other administrators that can be cut. I would not like to see programs cut unless very few are interested in them. There should be diversity in programs. Staff people to do the work are more imp!
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than high priced administrators. Preventative Maintenance is also important. Deferring things to later only makes matters worse.> Getting back to Mo and human diversity- Being familiar with international cuisine and culture enriches all of us. When by daughter was at LCSC she belonged to the International Club. They had an anual dinner with foods from around the world and international entertainment featuring the various cultures. All of this was great. I particular liked the students from Nepal. What I dont' care for is promoting diversity just for the sake of Diversity when it comes to employment or student enrollment. These area should be blind to race, religion, sex, sexual orientation or any other condition. Merit is what should rule here.> Roger> -----Original message-----> From: Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:22:10 -0800> To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] U of I Program Cuts> > > I'd like to see a furlough implem!
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myself. I say that knowing that > > I'm one of the people that would have to do a lot of the work with > > implementing it because I'm the programmer for the Payroll system. Just > > close the University down one day a month for x number months, or let > > the employees individually choose which days to take off without pay. > > We'd have to have a lower salary limit under which employees would not > > have to go on furlough, or make it voluntary. I'd rather lose a few > > days of pay than have the specter of layoffs hanging over my head, or > > something else just as drastic.> > > > Paul> > > > lfalen wrote:> > > Mo> > > I agree that most of the pay cuts should me with administrators. Also it would take 3 or 4 staff people to equal what you would save with letting one administrator go and I believe you could do without them easier than most staff people.> > > I am not opposed to diversity. I think that it is great, but I don't think that we need the whole west side of ( I t!
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second flour) of the Commons devoted to diversity and human relations. It is fine to have diversity, but the emphasis should be on merit.> > > Roger> > > -----Original message-----> > > From: Mo Hendrickson hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu> > > Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:28:24 -0800> > > To: lfalen at turbonet.com, vision2020 at moscow.com> > > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] U of I Program Cuts> > >> > > > > >> Roger- > > >> > > >> A couple of comments and questions regarding you program cuts.First, you write, "To help save some programs and jobs. everyone should take a 5 to 10% pay cut. Less money is better than no money." I am glad to hear that you are in a financial postion to take that kind of cut. There are many of us working for the University that could not manage that cut. I currently work in an IH position and have not had any pay increase in the three years in that position. So sure ask the administration to take reductions, but the folks down on the bottom of the pay chain can't h!
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that kind of reduction. > > >> > > >> I also question your statement, "I don't think the University needs that many people in development or diversity at this point." I am guessing that your view on diverity is based on an older model of diversity, that it is about skin color and gender. In my point of view, diversity is more than tracking how many people of color we have on campus, it is more than the number of women we have in the classrooms, diversity includes all of us, it is religion, it is gender, it is white men over 40, it is women in their 20's, understanding diversity is key in creating an environment in which students, staff, and faculty thrive. We should be investing in diversity not cutting it. That doesn't mean throwing money at it and giving it lip service, but really assessing the incredible resources we have on campus and finding ways to use them to bring in more students, to attract the best and brightest scholars. I don't want UI to become a homogenized un!
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everyone looking, thin!> > >> > > > king and> > > acting the same, there is no life in that. > > > > > >> > > >> I would also argue that this university if understaffed in terms of diversity programming not over staffed. We are currently have two key diversity positions on campus that are vacant and those vacancy are being felt. So please tell me why you think we need less people in diversity. > > >> > > >> -Mo Hendrickson> > >> A proud advocate for diversity> > =======================================================> List services made available by First Step Internet, > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > http://www.fsr.net > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> =======================================================> > >>> > >> > > >> > > =======================================================> > > List services made available by First Step Internet, > > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > > > http://www.fsr.net > > > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.!
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