[Vision2020] Presidential Rankings (2009)

[Kai Eiselein]

Let's not forget JFK's additon of thousands of "advisers" to Vietnam that 
directly preceded the full scale "police action".
JFK wasn't the worst prez, but he sure as hell wasn't one of the greatest, 
nor is he worthy of the god-like status he has been elevated to.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Presidential Rankings (2009)


> JFK who created the Peace Corps in 1962 should not be
> recognized/evaluated???????
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>> I would not argue too much with this ranking, but it depends on what you
> use for a
> criteria. If one uses incompetence and being ineffective as a guide:
> Buchanan, Pierce and
> Harding are still on the bottom. If one uses who did the most to preserve
> the Nation and
> advance individual rights alone with who did the most damage: Washington
> and Lincoln would
> still be on top. Reagan would move up some and FDR, Willson and Nixon
> would be moved to
> the bottom 10. LBJ is a mixed bag. He did quite a bit to advance civil
> rights, otherwise
> he did more harm than good. I would give Carter high marks for his work
> with Habitat for
> Humanity, but not as president. JFK was not president long enough to be
> adequately
> evaluated. W.Harrison and Garfield  should not be evaluated at all.
>> One thing we can probably all agree on is that  Lincoln was a great
> president. Due to
> conflicting schedules the Lincoln Day Dinner is being postponed to March
> 22. You are all
> invited.
>> Roger
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: "Tom Hansen" thansen at moscow.com
>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:52:40 -0800
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Presidential Rankings (2009)
>>
>> > Courtesy of USA Today at:
>> >
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>> >
>> > http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/02/62913403/1
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>> > Abraham Lincoln comes in first again in C-SPAN's second Historians
> Survey of
>> > Presidential Leadership -- an index that takes the views of 65
> presidential
>> > historians and ranks the 42 former presidents according to
> 10 "attributes of
>> > leadership."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The public affairs cable news network first produced a Presidents Day
>> > ranking of presidents in 2000. So this is its initial look at where
> former
>> > president George W. Bush ranks. He comes in at No. 36.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > As for the rest, historians' opinions haven't changed too much. George
>> > Washington (now No. 2) and Franklin Roosevelt (No. 3) switched places.
> Bill
>> > Clinton moved up from No. 21 in the previous index to No. 15 now.
> Ulysses S.
>> > Grant moved up 10 places, to No. 23. Rutherford B. Hayes lost 7
> places, and
>> > now stands at No. 33.
>> >
>> >
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>> > Courtesy of C-SPAN
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>> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tom Hansen
>> >
>> > Moscow, Idaho
>> >
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>> > "Every day you may make progress. Every step may be fruitful. Yet
> there will
>> > stretch out before you an ever-lengthening, ever-ascending, ever-
> improving
>> > path. You know you will never get to the end of the journey. But this,
> so
>> > far from discouraging, only adds to the joy and glory of the climb."
>> >
>> >
>> > -Sir Winston Churchill
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>
>
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> Unitarian Wiccan Agnostic like myself there's really no reason ever to go
> to work."
>
> - Roy Zimmerman
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