[Vision2020] Why I (don't) Support Gay Marriage

[the lockshop]

That you don't understand comes as no big suprise. In the first instance an existing right, the right to indulge in a legal activity on private property, is stripped away at the insistance of a small group of zealots (I recall no mention of communist influence on my part) In the second, the government is NOT taking anything away. (from a slightly different small group of zealots) They are also NOT telling anyone who to marry. To claim they are is, as usual, silly, blatantly false, and makes no sense.

g
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Campbell 
  To: g. crabtree 
  Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I Support Gay Marriage


  I don't understand someone who gets worked up because the local government won't allow smoking in bars, who thinks that that is some kind of communist influence, but who thinks the government CAN tell folks who to marry, and anyone who says otherwise is acting like a child. It makes no sense.


  Your pal, Joe 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Aug 14, 2009, at 6:51 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:


    "Are you suggesting that if one doesn't have and answer to this question, then the state need not allow the marriage?"

    No. I was suggesting that it would make for a more useful and interesting discussion than falling back on the same tactic that most 5 year olds use when told no. "But I want it!" and "That's no fair" followed by a stomp of the foot quickly become tedious and really do very little to further the conversation.

    g
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Joe Campbell 
      To: g. crabtree 
      Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
      Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:22 AM
      Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I Support Gay Marriage


      Gary wrote: "Why don't you explain to me all the myriad ways in which you being able to marry your partner is a benefit to me and/or society?" Can you answer this question, Gary? Are you suggesting that if one doesn't have and answer to this question, then the state need not allow the marriage? Should this be the standard for what the state allows and what it doesn't e.g. whether it is a benefit to society? Funny this didn't come up in the smoking issue!


      Your pal, Joe

      Sent from my iPhone

      On Aug 13, 2009, at 7:14 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:


        Why don't you explain to me all the myriad ways in which you being able to marry your partner is a benefit to me and/or society?"


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