[Vision2020] If you didn't make it to Seafair in Seattle...

Wed Aug 5 11:16:00 PDT 2009

Maybe less recruitment for the taxpayer supported military (if not
threatening national security), a lower Pentagon budget, fewer taxes,
thus more money left for citizens to spend and for businesses to
create jobs in the free market, is best.  Let capitalists take over as many
of the military needs of the nation as possible.

Air shows such as the Blue Angles could be run by the private sector.
Pilots would still be
trained, but less on the backs of the taxpayers.  Those who want to see the
Blue Angel shows can pay a fee.
The private sector could train and pay the pilots, and run these air shows
more cheaply and efficiently, than the red tape bureaucracy
of the government.  The shows could be contracted out with some government
funding.

If we truly have a national security threat needing more pilots for battle,
the draft can be used.  Registering is still
required, though currently as we know the military is voluntary.  The pilots
trained for the air shows could be drafted, with piloting
skills ready.

I'm not sure such an idea would work.  But why is it assumed so often that
the affairs of the military must be government taxpayer
funded and run?

The "government is wasteful and inefficient/free market does it best"
argument is often used against expanding government health
care, the National Endowment for the Arts, Public Broadcasting System,
attempts to expand regulation of or have government
run utilities, oil companies, vehicle manufacturing, agriculture, banks and
financial institutions, etc. yet similar arguments
applied to the Pentagon's budget are often rejected.

Former President and General Eisenhower was wise to warn about the abuses of
the military/industrial complex:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

Ted Moffett

On 8/4/09, Kai Eiselein <editor at lataheagle.com> wrote:
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>  No recruiting; fewer people in the military; more people in the the
> public workforce; higher unemployment and lower quality people defending
> this country.
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> Yup, sounds great to me, any other bright ideas, Wayne?
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com>
> *To:* Mike Deleve <coolerfixer at roadrunner.com>
> *Cc:* Bill London <london at moscow.com> ; Kai Eiselein<editor at lataheagle.com>;
> vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] If you didn't make it to Seafair in Seattle...
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> Mike,
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> I agree with you that they are the best of the best, especially based on
> the amount of air-time they get.  Now, I think the best of the best should
> be where we need them, on the front lines, not on a PR tour.
> They're not selling war-bonds to pay for the debacles we're in.
> And as far as recruiting goes, it's an ALL VOLUNTEER military, and we
> shouldn't be spending anything on recruiting.
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> I also agree with you about the "grey haired miltary veteran piloting the
> Boeings that I travel on." But until the services really get their heads out
> of their collective bottoms, we keep loosing those folks.  I worked for and
> was decorated by a Naval Reserve Rear Admiral that was forced into
> retirement at age 60, and we would have followed him to hell and back. When
> he left the navy because he was too old, he went back to Delta Airlines
> where he is the
> command pilot / training pilot for their 767 fleet.
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>  On Aug 4, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Mike Deleve wrote:
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> Well Bill, As far as the cost goes, I don't care. There is this thing
> called morale. It's an intangible thing, but extremely important to the
> Armed Services as well as the safety of our nation. I grew up in the Air
> Force. We all looked forward to the Thunderbirds show when the rotation of
> their schedule brought them to our current airbase.
> The demonstration teams for all of the different services are "the best of
> the best of the best". These pilot slots are highly prized and sought after,
> and rightly so. As I'm sure anyone with any common sense can figure out, the
> training would go on without airshows, and does 24/7 for all of the
> branches.
> Another aspect of the shows is for recruitment. Yes, I know, we shouldn't
> be recruiting anybody because the military is "evil". I disagree,
> particularly when it comes to pilots. I personally prefer to have a grey
> haired miltary veteran piloting the Boeings that I travel on.
> The aircraft themselves cost $21 million each. I'll let you find the rest
> of your answers yourself.
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> http://www.blueangels.navy.mil/
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bill London <london at moscow.com>
> *To:* Kai Eiselein <editor at lataheagle.com> ; vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] If you didn't make it to Seafair in Seattle...
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> Does anyone know the total cost of this Blue Angels show?
> costs:
> fuel
> training for pilots
> planes
> maintenence
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> At a time when real social services are cut, why is the US spending money
> for this show?
> BL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Kai Eiselein <editor at lataheagle.com>
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:41 PM
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] If you didn't make it to Seafair in Seattle...
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> I bring to you...the "Blue Angels"
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> Kai Eiselein
> Editor, Latah Eagle
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